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Hi Guys in answer to a couple of questions I'm based in Sussex.

 

I can see the whole point of the O licence having a yard to operate from and maintaining the truck etc all requires money and I wouldnt want my neighbour parking a 7.5t or bigger outside my house.

I'd be happy to pay the licence fee and advertising if my licence just allowed me to hire as and when I needed but dont see the point of the money in the bank if the hire company are maintaing the fleet

 

anyone know a way of weighing a loaded vehicle without taking it to a weigh bridge as just my luck to get stopped being overweight on the way to it ?

 

Mods how about a dedicated marquee section as I casn't find a single marquee forum on the web ??

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Surely your hire system allows you to put the weights of individual items on it and then it puts them on the pick lists? Then ask your suppliers how much your kit weighs.

 

We started off going down the route of weighing everything and then realised it was much easier to ask!

 

I did start a marquee forum a while ago but then ran out of steam before I told anybody about it!

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Chris, "Kerry: Try a roof rack for 12m beams :-p" I did and the Merc fell over!

 

Why not try a forum on the MUTA website? Is that not the best place for one as the experts are there?

 

And if you wish to weigh a vehicle can't you make an appointment similar to an MOT appointment which allows you to travel to the testing station? Not sure about that so phone first and check.

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Is weight the issue or size?

 

If you simply need to move the weight around then here is an option.

 

Certain Transit vans have a gross train weight of 7.5tons (rear wheel drive and large engine).

From VOSA, any trailler (including its load) with an unladen weight of less than 1020kgs will not be included in calculating gross mass.

 

What this means is that a transit and trailer fully laden can be upto 7.5t

As long as neither the van or trailer are themselves overloaded and the trailer weighs less than 1020kgs unladen and you do not exceed the towing mass or gross train weight of the van then you have yourself a 7.5t solution without an operators licence.

 

We chose this option when we bought our new van as it is only rarely that we need to carry that much weight in one transport.

All the above came from VOSA website and a conversation with our local inspection officer.

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Is weight the issue or size?

 

If you simply need to move the weight around then here is an option.

 

Certain Transit vans have a gross train weight of 7.5tons (rear wheel drive and large engine).

From VOSA, any trailler (including its load) with an unladen weight of less than 1020kgs will not be included in calculating gross mass.

 

What this means is that a transit and trailer fully laden can be upto 7.5t

As long as neither the van or trailer are themselves overloaded and the trailer weighs less than 1020kgs unladen and you do not exceed the towing mass or gross train weight of the van then you have yourself a 7.5t solution without an operators licence.

 

We chose this option when we bought our new van as it is only rarely that we need to carry that much weight in one transport.

All the above came from VOSA website and a conversation with our local inspection officer.

 

and you have had a tachograph fitted?

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anyone know a way of weighing a loaded vehicle without taking it to a weigh bridge as just my luck to get stopped being overweight on the way to it ?

 

Not just the stopping en-route you need to worry about, have you considered what you would do at the weighbridge with the items that make it overweight, as you won't then be able to drive off with them loaded !!

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Doing it that way around is daft.

 

You can weigh almost all your kit if you only have up to say 15m structure without any difficulty whatsoever using bathroom scales (just pick it up, stand on the scales and subtract your weight) and for really big items ask the manufacturer! All the weights are included in the tech specs which you should have seen for other reasons anyway.

 

Then put it into your hire system (any software which doesn't allow you to track weight should be binned) and Bob's your uncle! That's the only sensible thing to do if at all concerned.

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anyone know a way of weighing a loaded vehicle without taking it to a weigh bridge as just my luck to get stopped being overweight on the way to it ?

 

Not just the stopping en-route you need to worry about, have you considered what you would do at the weighbridge with the items that make it overweight, as you won't then be able to drive off with them loaded !!

 

never had that problem and even when over weight, can return to base,just make sure you pre-book

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Is weight the issue or size?

 

If you simply need to move the weight around then here is an option.

 

Certain Transit vans have a gross train weight of 7.5tons (rear wheel drive and large engine).

From VOSA, any trailler (including its load) with an unladen weight of less than 1020kgs will not be included in calculating gross mass.

 

What this means is that a transit and trailer fully laden can be upto 7.5t

As long as neither the van or trailer are themselves overloaded and the trailer weighs less than 1020kgs unladen and you do not exceed the towing mass or gross train weight of the van then you have yourself a 7.5t solution without an operators licence.

 

We chose this option when we bought our new van as it is only rarely that we need to carry that much weight in one transport.

All the above came from VOSA website and a conversation with our local inspection officer.

 

Any vehicle with a GTW (Gross train weight) over 3.5ton (trailer or no trailer) must be covered on an operators licence!

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Any vehicle with a GTW (Gross train weight) over 3.5ton (trailer or no trailer) must be covered on an operators licence!

 

No; if the towing vehicle is 3.5t or less and the unladen weight of the trailer is less than 1020kg then an operators licence is not required,

 

Tacho needed when towing though.

 

You also need to check you have the right category on your licence - if you passed your test after 1997 you'll have to take a trailer test to get the +E classification on your licence.

 

(For us old farts who passed our tests before 1997, we have the "grandfather" rights allowing us to tow trailers and drive 7.5t without additional tests)

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