metalgodusa Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 Hello all, Im hooking up a TOA P-1090-D to a Celestion SRC1 MK2 using celestion sr1 speakers and using a roland vs-1824 for a mixer and everything seems to be hooked up right but I keep getting a set up error light on the celestion src1 mk2 does anybody knows what this means?? Thanx
dbuckley Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 It means the processor cant see the speakers. You do have the speakers connected to the amp through the SRC1, yes? Otherwise, cable fault or busted speaker. If you are using only one half of an SRC1 (ie mono), you need to put a resister across the unused other half, or the SRC1 determines theres no speaker, and goes into error shutdown mode....
metalgodusa Posted June 7, 2010 Author Posted June 7, 2010 It means the processor cant see the speakers. You do have the speakers connected to the amp through the SRC1, yes? Otherwise, cable fault or busted speaker. If you are using only one half of an SRC1 (ie mono), you need to put a resister across the unused other half, or the SRC1 determines theres no speaker, and goes into error shutdown mode.... Thank you so much for your reply, Yes I have the speakers hooked up in parallel mode to the output of the amp and the input from the amp into the full range/hi amp connector on the src1. I'm pretty sure the speakers are ok. I have 5 sr1's and I've tried each of them although I have not heard them work yet ** laughs out loud **. The individual I got them from used them before just fine. I'm using the setup on figure "a" on the src1. I'm obviously doing somthing wrong. Can you give me an example of using half of the src1 or how would I aquire some sort of resister for this purpose? I'm pretty sure this may be my problem is how I'm connecting the amp into the src1. I'm a newb with this stuff but I'm learning. Thanx
dbuckley Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Thank heck for the web! http://www.limundo.com/slika-660499x640.jpg Figure A is correct, and shows using one half of the SRC1. For stereo, you need to do the same thing again to the other set of connectors,for the other half of the SRC1, so dupicate diagram A onto the second set of connectors, so you use both halves of the SRC1. If you are using just one amp channel and one or more speakers, you need to convince the unused half of the SRC1 that it is in use. To do this, leave all the unused half connectors unconnected, except you fit a 10 ohm resistor (maplin M10R will don fine) across the unused speaker connector bannana plugs. That convinces the SRC1 there is a speaker connected :P Since you have five speakers - note that only one goes through the SRC1 per channel; any others are just paralleled onto the amplifiers output. And make sure the speaker impedence switch on the SRC1 is set correctly! The whole purpose of routing the speakers through the SRC1 is to protect the speakers, and if the impedance selector is wrong then the protection may not work and yiu may fritz your speakers, which would be a dying shame, as these are some of the best sounding speakers in the known universe.
metalgodusa Posted June 8, 2010 Author Posted June 8, 2010 Thank heck for the web! http://www.limundo.com/slika-660499x640.jpg Figure A is correct, and shows using one half of the SRC1. For stereo, you need to do the same thing again to the other set of connectors,for the other half of the SRC1, so dupicate diagram A onto the second set of connectors, so you use both halves of the SRC1. If you are using just one amp channel and one or more speakers, you need to convince the unused half of the SRC1 that it is in use. To do this, leave all the unused half connectors unconnected, except you fit a 10 ohm resistor (maplin M10R will don fine) across the unused speaker connector bannana plugs. That convinces the SRC1 there is a speaker connected :P Since you have five speakers - note that only one goes through the SRC1 per channel; any others are just paralleled onto the amplifiers output. And make sure the speaker impedence switch on the SRC1 is set correctly! The whole purpose of routing the speakers through the SRC1 is to protect the speakers, and if the impedance selector is wrong then the protection may not work and yiu may fritz your speakers, which would be a dying shame, as these are some of the best sounding speakers in the known universe. Tell me about it! <_< So do I have to use the XLR's or can I just use the bananna plugs? Cause the amps I do have, are screw terminals for the inputs they do not have any XLR plugs on them. Yeah thats why I wanna get this right so I dont funk my speakers! Right now I would have 1 dual channel amp per 2 speakers and there Impedance are 4ohms. So Im good there. Oh and later on once I get this figured out I also have 8 SR8's that Im going to implement. Thanks A million!
dbuckley Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 so do I have to use the XLR's or can I just use the bananna plugs?For each half of the SRC1 that you want to use, you have to use all four bannana plugs, the XLR input, and at least the full range out, wired to the amplifier and sound source as shown in diagram A.
metalgodusa Posted June 12, 2010 Author Posted June 12, 2010 http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af184/metalgodusa/2010-06-11201946.jpgso do I have to use the XLR's or can I just use the bananna plugs?For each half of the SRC1 that you want to use, you have to use all four bannana plugs, the XLR input, and at least the full range out, wired to the amplifier and sound source as shown in diagram A. This is how I have it setup Im still doing somthing wrong stil no sound the amp is getting no signal. any clues? I got rid of the Setup error light though by hooking up both speakers the grey wires. Heres a link to the TOA P-1090D Power amp if this helps. TOA P-1090D Manual
Brian Posted June 12, 2010 Posted June 12, 2010 Where are the rest of the audio connections? ie from the controller to the amp?
metalgodusa Posted June 12, 2010 Author Posted June 12, 2010 Where are the rest of the audio connections? ie from the controller to the amp? I am not sure what you mean. But thank you for your response. Can you explain? Thank you
Brian Posted June 12, 2010 Posted June 12, 2010 The wiring diagram on the lid of the controller shows that the low-level audio output from your mixer goes into the controller and then from the controller goes to your amplifier. The power output from the amplifier then goes back to the controller and then goes out to your speakers. However, in your photo I can see no low-level audio signal going into the TOA; I can see no connection to the low-level outputs of the controller. In fact, I'm not sure I can see any speaker connections to the TOA. What modules are installed in the TOA - the manual mentions them but does not show any details.
MarkPAman Posted June 12, 2010 Posted June 12, 2010 I'm only going by the photos in this thread, but I think......... You need a lead with a female XLR plugged into the controler's ouput (not the sub out next to the input, but the next one), to take the (low level) signal into the amp. Pin 1 will be ground / screen / 0V, Pin 2 will be hot / + and Pin 3 will be cold / -
sonicnrg Posted June 12, 2010 Posted June 12, 2010 How is the audio output of the Roland recorder getting to the controllers input?Plus wouldn't it be better to use the master output instead of the monitor outs?
metalgodusa Posted June 12, 2010 Author Posted June 12, 2010 The wiring diagram on the lid of the controller shows that the low-level audio output from your mixer goes into the controller and then from the controller goes to your amplifier. The power output from the amplifier then goes back to the controller and then goes out to your speakers. However, in your photo I can see no low-level audio signal going into the TOA; I can see no connection to the low-level outputs of the controller. In fact, I'm not sure I can see any speaker connections to the TOA. What modules are installed in the TOA - the manual mentions them but does not show any details. There is two input modules, one for each channel. I have the speakers going into the controller and then the full range/hi amp from the controller going into each module. I'm sure this is wrong though obviously since I am not getting signal to the amp. A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. I'm only going by the photos in this thread, but I think......... You need a lead with a female XLR plugged into the controler's ouput (not the sub out next to the input, but the next one), to take the (low level) signal into the amp. Pin 1 will be ground / screen / 0V, Pin 2 will be hot / + and Pin 3 will be cold / - Any idea on how to rig somthing up like this. I have chopped a XLR cable in half and used the female end but does the chopped end go into just the input on the far right side or the input module? In the middle of the picture on the amp?
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