PyroSteve Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hi guys, Wonder if anyone can help me.. Im in dying need of propane refill cans for a P-2-B flame machine anyone know anywhere in the UK that does theses??? I got some butane ones from a camping store but a) they are too big and b) its butane its rubbish compared to propane as you dont get the height! If anyone can help it will be amazing... Only got a week on sat to find 8 by ** laughs out loud **! Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Where did you get the machines from? Are the cartridges even available in the UK? Have you a picture or a drawing of what you need. Can the original cartridges be refilled by (Calor, BP, BOC etc) any competent refiller. B&Q did some propane-butane mixed gas cartridges for some of their blowtorches. However it's flame so who is the design authority and who holds the product liability insurance, who can give permission to modify a design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 B&Q did some propane-butane mixed gas cartridges for some of their blowtorches.Thats all we have available here in NZ, its locally called LPG, and its a propane / butane mix, and its insipid and horrible, and worse than that, the propane burns off quicker than the butane, so the cylinder mixture reduces in proportion of propane through the life, so the flame just gets cooler with time. At the end you're left with almost pure butane, which is useless, and then the cylinder gets refilled, and so the butane proportion starts out greater... Hateful stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipstream Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 You sure it's propane - all our machines are naptha in cans with propellant Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroSteve Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Hi Guys, Thanks for your help... Im presuming its propane.. We got them from China havent got enough money for a round trip to go and fetch refills form there(if I can find them ** laughs out loud **) http://www.madeffects.com/flame-projector-...ly-399-10-p.asp Its a very very simular model to that without the projector bit. The cans are silver and do not have any markings on it at all!!!!! (good help that is) Unfortantlly we dont have the boxes anymore so cant read it :unsure: sorry im very vague @Slipstream what models do you have?? do you have a link to a supplier for refills? I could look and see if they look the same Thanks All Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin D Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Why don't you contact Mad Effects in Northern Ireland to ask where you get replacement gas from? Slightly worryingly they are not registered with companies house, nor do they have a land-line! MADeffects6 Primacy Pk,BANGOR,BT19 7JB. 07513566177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Looks like they took up the offer from China that I had also! AFIK those flames are NOT propane but LPG propelled liquid. You need the correct cans with the correct content and though the Chinese supplier will air freight the machines the cans have to come by sea which is eight weeks usually unless you pay silly money for specialist carriers and special expediting. A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. Put that address into google maps then look at the streetview! Robin D are you sure of the business being at that address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Ill concurr with the addresshttp://www.hotfroguk.co.uk/Companies/MADeffects googled the mobile number, a few websites give the same address for them. Just because thats the registered address, doesn't mean thats where they do most business from, quite possible thats a home office, and they operate from a warehouse somewhere. strange not to have a land line if they truly do sell all the kit they claim to do though...(not impossible to find one though, seeing as you can find the MDs name/address from google!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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