tommulliner Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hi Guys, We have ordered dimmers (beta pack 3s) which have arrived today. We went to the hall where the dimmers are being installed, and I noticed that there are no 15A plugged cables going from the bars, only 2 multi-core almost soccapex type looking connector (not a very good descrition I know!!) I am guessing that somthing is connected to that that has a load of cables coming out with 15A plugs on that go into the dimmers. Do you know where I can get this attachment with a load of 15amped cables coming out?Links etc would be great, I have contacted our local hire company and they came back to me with this email!You are running this project tom, get on with it! So I'm not very happy as im sure you can tell!Thanks for your help,Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 The hire company you, I pressume, purchased the lights off have told a student to get on with it?? If you dont know how to wire the dimmers then surely you need to speak to a professional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcog Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Any chance of getting a description or pitcure of the socapex-ish conncetors you mentioned? Are they socapex or not? If they are, then you would be looking at socapex breakouts or spiders and most stage retailers would be able to provide them for you! Off topic... However should you really be running a school installation if you dont know what cables and parts you need too order combined with the fact that your a student? Hope this helps, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 No, I didn't buy the kit off them, I just emailed them for these parts, and told me that. speak to a professionalThats why I came here... A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. Off topic... However should you really be running a school installation if you dont know what cables and parts you need too order combined with the fact that your a student?Its not for a school, drama group. They are not soccapex, they have pins and a thread that somthing attaches to., I will try to find a picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 The item you are looking for is known as a "spider" (UK) a.k.a. "fanout" (US). If it has plugs on, then it's a male spider a.k.a. "fan-in". almost soccapexIt will help immensely, if you know exactly what connectors they are B-) They most likely are 19-pin Socapex, but a picture would mean we can nail it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 I think that it may be the connector in the top right... Link to picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 It's a Socapex compatible connector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 Do I need somthing like this then? Picture A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. I also need a 32A with 2x32A outputs as there is only one 32A socket in the roof that is needed to power both dimmer packs. I have seen one on ebay, but my only worry is if I over load the socket? Is there a big chance of this happening with two Betapack 3s? Ebay Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyandi Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Do I need somthing like this then? PictureYes - is what the last few posts have been saying! And considering a betapack requires either a 32A 3 phase input or 63A single phase input you are correct that the ebay item is not suitable. The beta pack manuals give all the input supply ratings. Sounds like you may need some professional help due to the questions being asked, which may be what the hire company was getting at - although not put in a very helpful way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunk_1984 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Do I need somthing like this then? Picture To go from the dimmers to the previously pictured connector, yes. Assuming the betapack3's are sockets out and not socapex or hard wired outputs. Presumably the bars are IWB's and there isn't just a female socapex up there needing break outs also? I also need a 32A with 2x32A outputs as there is only one 32A socket in the roof that is needed to power both dimmer packs. I have seen one on ebay, but my only worry is if I over load the socket? Is there a big chance of this happening with two Betapack 3s? This is fine as such, as there is a maximum capacity of 32a. However as it's as install, why not get an electrician to either install 2 new sockets. Or run a cable from the existing socket to a small distribution board outputting to 2 32a sockets. And considering a betapack requires either a 32A 3 phase input or 63A single phase input you are correct that the ebay item is not suitable. The beta pack manuals give all the input supply ratings. Sounds like you may need some professional help due to the questions being asked, which may be what the hire company was getting at - although not put in a very helpful way. Although correct that a betapack requires 32/3 or 63/1 to run at full capacity, there is no reason not to feed them from a 32/1 supply, this limits the capacity, however allows more channels to be used, just not necessarily all at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 The little bits of email you've posted from the local company sound rather like they are not helping on purpose? They didn't quote for the job, or already do some prep work, and then you cut them out, by any chance? It seems a bit odd you ordered equipment before noticing the connection issues? You could have ordered dimmers with socapex outlets? That said, the spiders are a great way of patching. If you also need to now get power made available - you have two socapex 6 channel feeds to the equipment. I'd suggest that 32A maximum power isn't anywhere near enough. If the electricians have to come in, see if they can give you some more - it could be available, but just not used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 All we are running lanterns wise, are 8 cct minuette fresnels, and 4 300w par 56 cans. Should this be ok to run off 32A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boswell Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I think you are out of your depth Tom, get a professional in.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 All we are running lanterns wise, are 8 cct minuette fresnels, and 4 300w par 56 cans. Should this be ok to run off 32A?If you have to ask, then... I think you are out of your depth Tom, get a professional in.!+1 :up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHoward Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 And considering a betapack requires either a 32A 3 phase input or 63A single phase input you are correct that the ebay item is not suitable. The beta pack manuals give all the input supply ratings. Sounds like you may need some professional help due to the questions being asked, which may be what the hire company was getting at - although not put in a very helpful way.As other have already picked up on - we run out Betapacks on 32A single phase (per pack mind). As long as we consider the maximum load per pack when we come to patching we've never had a problem yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.