Dunfermline1 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hello, A company we have erected stageing for has asked for a risk assessment, don't know where to start.......Can anyone point us in the right direction for a pro forma as to give us a clue...Thank-you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Go to the HSE Website and search for Risk Assessment Edit: Actually, better still click on the Do A Risk Assessment link on their home page. You will also find lost of info about writing a H+S Policy, which you probably also should have and will no doubt be the next bit of paperwork you're asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim_mcslim Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 How can you errect a stage without doing a risk assessment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilflet Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 How can you errect a stage without doing a risk assessment ? by using common sense, doing it safley, but not realising that youve mentally risk assessed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lee Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I think Slim meant that in this day and age how can you erect staging without realising that you need a risk assesment. by using common sense, doing it safley, but not realising that youve mentally risk assessed it? All well and good but how do we know who is competent to do this and if they have done it if "its in my head". Also, should the worst happen, would be a god awful excuse in court. "Well you honour, it looked fine to me." At least the OP is asking about it because somebody has asked them for a RA rather than after a problem has occured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim_mcslim Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 by using common sense, doing it safley, but not realising that youve mentally risk assessed it? I think Slim meant that in this day and age how can you erect staging without realising that you need a risk assesment. I actually meant both, assuming that the staging co. where competent then they would mentally risk assess the sitaution and leave having built a safe, firm, level structure. But in this day and age how can you prove you are competent without realising that you need to produce paperwork to say that you are. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Wilflet, remember that an RA is a legal document that can be called for in court. "Step 4: Record your findings and implement them." You need a written record, judges will not accept brain scans and you can be fined for failure to provide, or provision of an inadequate RA. Dunfermline1; what probably concerns David and Slim is the very fact that you are building temporary structures with no knowledge of RA's which are "beginners" stuff. It raises questions of whether you should actually be doing the work, if it is in fact "work" and not voluntary service. However; if using system staging units (Steeldeck etc) then the manufacturers websites have method statements that you simply must download. These are the first elements of the RA and the only way to begin building safe staging. The HSE's 5 Steps to Risk Assessment template is something else to download but you may have difficulty completing it if inexperienced. If it is tube and clip or any other proprietary scaffold system (Kwikform, Cuplock etc) then you really need an expert, particularly if you have large loadings or numbers of people on stage, and shouldn't be building it unless you are expert. I have seen really good building-site scaffolders do some nightmare contraptions completely unacceptable as event staging. Did you know for instance that there are 5 different recommended "Types" of handrail for seating staging with different loading parameters? If you think that David, Slim and me are over-reacting please be aware that not knowing about RA's implies that you don't have too much knowledge of HASAWA 1974 let alone the vast amount of information that is needed in this industry today. Please feel free to PM me if you are still stuck, I don't wish to dismay anyone too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritch Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Did the OP ever actually come back, having started this thread six month ago? Hopefully they're still in good health, and haven't been the victim of something that they'd have spotted if they'd have sat down and started to think about the basics of doing even a mental RA! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Nope, last visit was march 19th - the day after! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Do you think I put them off? Patricia never contacted me either. Hi Charlotte and welcome, but this isn't a case for COSHH which I assume you mean by using exposure measures. Stages aren't that toxic though what occurs on them in the name of performance often is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldc1 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Totally agree with Kerry on this subject,it takes me on average 6 weeks each year to totally complete all our Health & Safety docs which include our TDMS RA's, different method statements for each of the scaff systems we are likely to work with ie Layher, Kwik Form & Cuplock. Add to that all the info that needs updating from the HSE & its a fair old job just ensuring all is covered. The original poster & indeed anyone working with these structures needs to realise that the job starts with the paperwork these days long before a ledger is in sight! Also included has to be Flt / Telehandler RA's / Method Statements, manual handling, working with power etc, etc. Welcome to 21st century stage building! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzly Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hi Charlotte and welcome... Who's this Charlotte, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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