ashish.malaviya Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I am planning to buy a new console my options are Yamaha Ls9-16, Yamaha O1v 96, Presonue Studio Live 16. Kindly guide me to chose the right one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 You're going to have to give us some details of your application if you want any valid recommendations. The LS9 is primarily a live console while the 01V96 (though sometimes used live) is at its best in studio and post production situations. I'm not mentioning the Presonus because I have no personal experience--but another aspect of the detail we need is "who will operate it?". This becomes an issue because, while there is a large established user base of people who know the Yamaha consoles well, the same doesn't apply to the Presonus. If it's for you alone, this might not be an issue...if you want to rent out the desk or use freelancers, the user base is a major issue. ...and so on. Details please! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashish.malaviya Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 I am planning to use in live sound... and the comparision is with LS-9 16CH , PreSonue and o1v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 LS9, no contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Yup. For live work, the LS9 is hands down the way to do. It's designed specifically for live work but has a somewhat higher price point than the other two though. The Presonus looks interesting and I look forward to trying one...but it's too new to have any sort of track record...indeed the 24 channel version isn't even shipping until April. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I'm another who has never used the Presonus. I have however used both of the others for live music & can confirm that the LS9 is much better. Not sure that adds much really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashish.malaviya Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Thanks guys for giving your precious quotes but still I want you to see the video and decide ... thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I can't see the point of a live desk that requires fader level matching - leaving motorised faders out of the spec would point me to the LS9, but another though depends on the complexity. The Presonus has lots of knobs. Until the Yamaha 7 and 9s came along, I always liked the many button/knob approach - but now I'm sure reduced controls are the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashish.malaviya Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Presonus is specially designed for live sound situation...it has live recording feature and live playback without much latency (not more than 5ms).Key Feature if you have recorded a band before and same show you are doing some were else n suppose Bassest didnt happen to come you can just select the bass track with the band...no one can make it out... A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. I can't see the point of a live desk that requires fader level matching - leaving motorised faders out of the spec would point me to the LS9, but another though depends on the complexity. The Presonus has lots of knobs. Until the Yamaha 7 and 9s came along, I always liked the many button/knob approach - but now I'm sure reduced controls are the way to go. The reason for having so much button is that many utilities, but than too its for play back and recording purpose. you can select the faders you want to record and you can select the faders to playback simultaneously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolley1466 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Well, you seem to like the Presonus a lot. I'd go for something that you like, have you had demos of the consoles you've mentioned? Before you part with your money it might be better to do so before you buy. Is this for rental or personal use? Would visiting engineers want to mix on a Presonus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 The Presonus is an interesting console (I've seen a similar video before) and I would like to get my hands on one to see exactly how good it is. The trouble is, it is a very new product (the 16 channel version came out a few months ago; the 24 channel version doesn't start shipping until late April this year. I've known of lots of digital consoles that looked good in the press releases but didn't live up to the hype--and that will be your problem. Nothing in the spec I've seen would rule out the Presonus (and there's a lot to interest me) but, despite moving in sound circles, I don't know of anyone who can give first hand advice yet. So, I fear, this leaves the decision to you. Can you afford to take a bit of a risk on something new? Sometimes early adopters get a jump on the market; other times they waste their money. The LS9 is a proven, good console. The Presonsus MIGHT be as good or better but it's a gamble. Frankly, I hope a few BR posters buy the Presonus and post their experiences on the board to save me the risk! This is a clear case of "you pays your money and takes your chances". It's down to you to decide how bid a risk you can afford to take. However, one thing I WOULD check out (if I were you) is what kind of support your local Presonus distributor can give you in India. For me (money aside) that might be a deciding factor. Yamaha have a great world wide network; I'd only go into the Presonus if I knew queries and problems could be solved quickly and easily locally. ...but do let us know what you decide. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHoward Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Presonus is specially designed for live sound situation...it has live recording feature and live playback without much latency (not more than 5ms).Key Feature if you have recorded a band before and same show you are doing some were else n suppose Bassest didnt happen to come you can just select the bass track with the band...no one can make it out...You could attach recording equipment to the LS9 if you wanted via the expansion slots - you could attach a multitrack recorder over ADAT and have lossless multitrack recording, if that was something you were looking for in your setup. I'm afraid practically I don't see the recording track sync'ing with the live band seamlessly - are the band playing to a click track? How are they supposed to keep in time with the recorded bassist? How do you cue up the tracks for each number, or is the whole set recorded as one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Not all comment are positive - if you subscribe to SOS, then there is a pretty good review, but having just read it, the summary suggests the reviewer found that for a live mixer that works for recordings at the same time, it's pretty good - BUT recall is a bit of a problem. It seems that although it's not too bad at recalling a fader match position, it's more fiddly with the rotaries. You seem impressed with it, and obviously want positives, so why not go for it, and be a pioneer. Hopefully, it will take off and become really popular - but it seems to be a product out there on it's own, in terms of features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw44 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Out of the three desks the LS9 is clearly better. But it is more than double the price than the other two desks you are comparing. In a straight fight between the O1V and Studiolive I'd take the Presonus unless having instant recall was a necessity. In my opinion the 01V is too fiddly for live sound where as the Presonus has an (almost) faultless layout. Others Pro's over the 01V:- Meter bridge is always handy- Firewire out makes recording a sinch- Pre amps sound a bit sweeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan slv-tech Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Having watched the youtube vid and associated vids, it has a couple of neat functions, but theres also alot of things it cant/doesnt do, that the LS9 does,I have an LS9 expanded upto 56 inputs, which I can run flawlessly,and never misses a beat, but then its about £8K worth of kit all in. so for its price point the pre sonus isnt too bad, but does have limitations, but for small projects would be ok, not sure how many would be using it in a live situation as its a little clunky the way its set out, doesnt have an " analog" layout like most other digital boards do. dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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