tomofthefuture Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Simple I'm looking to buy a laser and I want it to be 500mw RGB with ILDA.But I have come across a RGBV laser that's blue violet instead of blue.The colour looks very nice and its a fraction of the price but I have never actually seen one in action! What are your opinions on blue violet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Simple I'm looking to buy a laser and I want it to be 500mw RGB with ILDA.But I have come across a RGBV laser that's blue violet instead of blue.The colour looks very nice and its a fraction of the price but I have never actually seen one in action! What are your opinions on blue violet? Blue Violet is a dangerous frequency, it should not be used as a effects laser, it's meant for units as Blue Ray DVDs... It can trigger certain types of skin cancer, the manufacturer probably used a this cheaper option as a decent blue diode is quite expensive. Call us on 0845299072 if you want a demo of a 500mw RGB with ILDA and DMX. RegardsTin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 ...I have come across a RGBV laser that's blue violet instead of blue... What are your opinions on blue violet?Blue Violet is a dangerous frequency, it should not be used as a effects laser, it's meant for units as Blue Ray DVDs... It can trigger certain types of skin cancer...tomofthefuture, can you tell us what laser it was and where you saw it, please? A link would be welcome :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomofthefuture Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 ...I have come across a RGBV laser that's blue violet instead of blue... What are your opinions on blue violet?Blue Violet is a dangerous frequency, it should not be used as a effects laser, it's meant for units as Blue Ray DVDs... It can trigger certain types of skin cancer...tomofthefuture, can you tell us what laser it was and where you saw it, please? A link would be welcome :blink: just go on ebay and type in blue violet laser there all over the shop. Blue violet lasers have nothing to do with blue ray dvds ** laughs out loud ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Blue violet lasers have nothing to do with blue ray dvds ** laughs out loud **Wrong. They have everything to do with 'Blu Ray'. The wavelength used in Blu Ray is 405nm which is EXACTLY the wavelength used in Blue Violet lasers. These cheap and nasty lasers are using LEDs designed for Blu Ray burners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomofthefuture Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Blue violet lasers have nothing to do with blue ray dvds ** laughs out loud **Wrong. They have everything to do with 'Blu Ray'. The wavelength used in Blu Ray is 405nm which is EXACTLY the wavelength used in Blue Violet lasers. These cheap and nasty lasers are using LEDs designed for Blu Ray burners. I am sorry.after much research I have found out you are correct and if the diode is 200mw in power then it more than lightly is right out of a sony blue ray player. However take into account im not using this laser for stage and its not going in the rig for bon jovi.I just want it as my own doss around toy for small local gigs and privet events like marquee weddings and partys etc.If I wanted to use a big laser I would hire in a martin RGB from my local company.Seeing as I dont own a laser at the moment im just using this as an introduction to see if having this "special effect" will make me profit and its worth buying a big laser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin24 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 If its a Laser World RGBV CS500 unit (Or anything similar for that matter). I would be very cautious. I have had the unfortunate task of trying to program one. An experience I never wish to repeat. Shocking galvos resulting in bad scan rates and dangerous effects and images. Zero safety features that are of any use. One example being if the unit loses power it will drop to a primary full power beam pointing in a random direction for at least two seconds before the unit becomes discharged. I have extensive knowledge of "proper" high power entertainment lasers both in use and on the production line and this thing scared me more than any prototype high power laser I have ever come across. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Blue violet lasers have nothing to do with blue ray dvds ** laughs out loud **Wrong. They have everything to do with 'Blu Ray'. The wavelength used in Blu Ray is 405nm which is EXACTLY the wavelength used in Blue Violet lasers. These cheap and nasty lasers are using LEDs designed for Blu Ray burners. I am sorry.after much research I have found out you are correct and if the diode is 200mw in power then it more than lightly is right out of a sony blue ray player. However take into account im not using this laser for stage and its not going in the rig for bon jovi.I just want it as my own doss around toy for small local gigs and privet events like marquee weddings and partys etc.If I wanted to use a big laser I would hire in a martin RGB from my local company.Seeing as I dont own a laser at the moment im just using this as an introduction to see if having this "special effect" will make me profit and its worth buying a big laser. Not quite sure why you wanted advice on a subject that you clearly think you know more than anyone else, and have made your mind up about using a clearly unsafe peice of equipment. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomofthefuture Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 If its a Laser World RGBV CS500 unit (Or anything similar for that matter). I would be very cautious. I have had the unfortunate task of trying to program one. An experience I never wish to repeat. Shocking galvos resulting in bad scan rates and dangerous effects and images. Zero safety features that are of any use. One example being if the unit loses power it will drop to a primary full power beam pointing in a random direction for at least two seconds before the unit becomes discharged. I have extensive knowledge of "proper" high power entertainment lasers both in use and on the production line and this thing scared me more than any prototype high power laser I have ever come across. Andy Thanks for the warning Andy Here is the basic kinda idea I was going for http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/580mw-RGB-DMX512-ILD...=item2a02d927ee I know its from china and probably glued together but if it lasts 6 - 12 months ill be happy. Its just to see if its worth me forking out a few thousand for a good one. We do have a company sparky so I'm hoping he can get his head around it should anything go wrong so I can sell it on if I decide to upgrade. Could you tell me what I should be looking for in a laser e.g. minimum frame rate etcThanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I just want it as my own doss around toy for small local gigs...With all due respect, lasers are not toys - least of all "doss around" ones :blink: Please read through this website before purchasing your laser. Please also read the HSE's HSG95 guidance notes on laser safety and check up on the IEC 60825 standard.Don't forget to inform whoever provides your PLI, that you'll be using lasers. e2a... Something else worth a look: International Laser Display Association website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin24 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for the warning Andy Here is the basic kinda idea I was going for http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/580mw-RGB-DMX512-ILD...=item2a02d927ee I know its from china and probably glued together but if it lasts 6 - 12 months ill be happy. Its just to see if its worth me forking out a few thousand for a good one. We do have a company sparky so I'm hoping he can get his head around it should anything go wrong so I can sell it on if I decide to upgrade. Could you tell me what I should be looking for in a laser e.g. minimum frame rate etcThanks Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.... Even the Ebay advert makes me shiver in horror... You can't compare cheap lasers with the real thing. It would be like comparing a ZX Spectrum 48 with an XBOX. Even a couple of thousand is cheap for a laser. The lasers I used to work with went in the region of 35k and up. (Without control) The Martin one somebody mentioned somwhere is upward of 25K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prolightdesigner Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hi I had the chance to see a RGBV laser in use a few weeks ago, and I was quite impressed with the color. Believe it or not this was a LaserWorld model, though I couldn't tell you which one. You can't exactly compare it to a 37W laser, but it was decent, however I'd avoid LaserWorld. Like others have mentioned, any ebay lasers can be very spotty - you're never sure what you'll get or if it will work. I couldn't find where you are located, but if it's here in America, I'd buy from X-Laser (www.x-laser.com). They make quality products that have all the necessary documentation for legal use. If not, check out www.photonlexicon.com if no one can help you here. There are also plenty of Laserworld reviews over there. My personal advice if that if you're going to get in to lasers, do it right the first time. -Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomofthefuture Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for all the advise guys. I think I'm gonna go with what you guys have sed and I'm gonna call some companies and go to some demos etc so I know what I'm buying and I know its both safe and good quality. I am also thinking of buying a very basic blue violet laser just to see what its like and do a review on them but after all this I wont use it anywhere other than my home garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bleasdale Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for all the advise guys. I think I'm gonna go with what you guys have sed and I'm gonna call some companies and go to some demos etc so I know what I'm buying and I know its both safe and good quality. I am also thinking of buying a very basic blue violet laser just to see what its like and do a review on them but after all this I wont use it anywhere other than my home garage. Definitly give us a call at Burple UK. We have 2 specialist laser operators and would be happy to assist you with demo's and purchasing. 0845299072 Ask to speak with Michael or Tin. Best Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Congresstech Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for all the advise guys. I think I'm gonna go with what you guys have sed and I'm gonna call some companies and go to some demos etc so I know what I'm buying and I know its both safe and good quality. I am also thinking of buying a very basic blue violet laser just to see what its like and do a review on them but after all this I wont use it anywhere other than my home garage. I'm sorry, but are you just plain stupid or ignorant? Every single reply you have received so far is urging you not to buy what I personally consider a dangerous piece of equipment, and my opinion is wholly based on what others have said here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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