alan1180 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Hey, Is there a legal age you need to be to climb a ladder in school to rig some lighting and sound equiptment? Any help would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerJonny Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 if you use the search function in the upper right, theres plenty of topics covering this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 There isn't any legal age, but the school can set whatever rules they like - usually blaming it a 'law' - logically, you can go to a swimming pool with the school and dive off a high board, after climbing up a wet ladder or steps, walk out over the pool on a slippery board and then plummet down, and hopefully, if you get it right - not break your back. That is ok. You can climb up wall bars in the gym. You can attempt to jump over hurdles, or throw javelins. You can do experiments with substances that could poison you, or blow you up. In physics you can charge capacitors up and then if you are stupid, discharge them through your fingers! The same school will happily ban you from climbing three rungs up on a step ladder. Trouble is, there's not much you can do about it - sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern123 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Sometimes it is the Local Education Authority that stipulates the rules on Ladder use in Schools, often to do with Insurance and their legal and H&S teams. Some say you must use a tower instead of ladders, some say access platform, it varies. Personally having seen teachers & students clambering about on scaff towers (eg: Climbing up the outside in Primary Schools) they are no safer. When I were a lad, 7 year old, we used to operate t' Junior 8 and scamper up and down wooden A frame ladders wi't Pattern 23's & Furse Fresnels....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan1180 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 The problem I have is me and only two of my friends are the first three people to do the technical theatre course at my school, so we are basicly the guinea pigs. We have to rig a light, which I've done many times out of school, but at school I have to do it to be graded. The teachers seem to believe its the law that I can't climb ladders and I need some way to prove this wrong. Do you know of any ways I can prove this is not a law? Thanks Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Easy. Rig the light on a stand with t-bar; problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerJonny Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 so, the teachers have to grade you on something you arent allowed to do? isnt that a bit like asking you to write an essay without a pen, pencil computer or even an etch a sketch?? things like this make me want to hit my head against a very hard wall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan1180 Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 so, the teachers have to grade you on something you arent allowed to do? isnt that a bit like asking you to write an essay without a pen, pencil computer or even an etch a sketch?? things like this make me want to hit my head against a very hard wall... You see my problem, its because my school have never done anything like this and did look at the grading stuff in the first place, my school is always ###### up like this :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The teachers seem to believe its the law that I can't climb ladders and I need some way to prove this wrong. Do you know of any ways I can prove this is not a law?OK.To echo what's already been said, there is NO law that prohibits you from climbing anything.However, again as has been said, the school, or LEA may have a policy restricting what students are allowed to do on premises. That MAY have roots in their insurance underwritings, or it may be a misinterpretation of such, OR it may just be a jobsworth in the county or school H & S 'department' wanting to avoid risks they don't understand. Either way, the only thing you can do is quietly question the ruling through proper channels - ie via the relevant teaching staff. Don't whinge or whine about it but pose the question clearly and maturely, and ask them to confirm which law they believe prohibits you from carrying out activities of this nature. And at the end of that process, as a student, you must accept the ruling as there's not a great deal more you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Someone's already posted the solution (maybe you didn't see it, maybe you chose to ignore it). Put a T-bar on a stand, and rig the light on that for your assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osal Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Someone's already posted the solution (maybe you didn't see it, maybe you chose to ignore it). Put a T-bar on a stand, and rig the light on that for your assessment. what about when it comes to focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Are you suggesting that a light rigged on a T-bar isn't suitable for assessing a person's ability to carry out basic focussing operations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osal Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 as training its fine but what happens if its a show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony g Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 as training its fine but what happens if its a show Get the school to fork out and hire a proper scaffold tower, scissor lift, tallescope and rig in safety. Ladders are not really the safest method for rigging lanterns unless you have no other option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Get the school to fork out and hire a proper scaffold tower, scissor lift, tallescope and rig in safety. Ladders are not really the safest method for rigging lanterns unless you have no other optionSorry, but that is a rather crass statement to make.Ladders, used properly, are perfectly safe for use in many circumstances. And in others, the only method of access to height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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