whiffin1 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Hi all - I would appreciate your advice. I play in a function band and we play venues ranging from 100 to 700 people. We have a 7 piece band which is basically a four piece rock band with a 3 piece brass section. Our current system is really good, the output and quality is great. However it's a good few years old now and I am hoping to reduce the number of boxes I need to carry. The only downside of the system seems to be that it is quite directional. Often a bonus, but occassionally this causes problems in wide venues. It's also 8 boxes which means more trips to and from the van. Current FOH System4 x Turbosound TQ4404 x Adlib Audio 1 x 18" subs1 x Lab Gruppen 6000Q (4 x 1250 watt amp)1 x Camco Vortex 61 x DBX Drive Rack Budget for new system is probably 10K. Ideally, I'd like to make the new system 1 sub per side and 1 mid/high box per side. I would be prepared to lift a 2x18 sub if that's what it takes as long as it would match the output of the separate 1x18 boxes I currently own. I would consider active or passive. Passive is probably cheaper as I would keep a hold of my amps (both of which I like). However I'm well aware of the benefits of active systems particularly with the new light amps. I was thinking that horn loaded boxes may give me the output I need inside a few boxes... Have no experience of this though... New system must be a realistic 2 man lift and be quick to set up. I'm based in Newcastle Upon Tyne and have few links with pro audio suppliers. I would really appreciate any advice you have? Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfreak Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 RCF TT system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiffin1 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 Thanks for the reply. RCF TT System - what configuration? Which boxes and how many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'm not sure if the TT12A top box can array. You can get both single and dual 18 inch subs and everything is Active/Powered though. You say 100-700 people, what is the average? You'd be better suited for the audience sizes in the majority of the gigs you play then hiring in systems for anything bigger and using just tops for smallest gigs. [out on a limb & total guess work]Perhaps 2 stacks of D&B C series?[/out on a limb & total guess work] Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMitchell Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Perhaps 2 stacks of D&B C series? 2 stacks of C7 would be good for the job, that is six boxes though and the OP would have to buy secondhand to avoid blowing the budget by 5k, do-able with s/h P1200s within the 10k budget, however secondhand C7 is quite hard to come by. 4 stacks of secondhand C4 with P1200s would also work with the budget, however that's eight boxes, which is what he is wanting to get away from. C4 is easy to come by secondhand at sensible prices. 2 stacks of C4 could only work if setup along the short side of a long room, however there's then the problem of getting the C4-Top to a sensible height. Plus as a function band, lots of the time you don't know the shape of the room or setup position until you're onsite. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiffin1 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 Many thanks, sounds like C7 may be the way to go. The right mix of portability and power. I'll have to be patient on the second hand market. Anyone know where I can dry hire C7's in the North East Of England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMitchell Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Anyone know where I can dry hire C7's in the North East Of England? TMC in Bradford or Wigwam in Heywood Lancs are both d&b rental houses and sales partners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trunker Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Check out the KV2 range of speakers. IMO and other engineers that I work with, they are much better than the RCF TT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim_mcslim Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Again another band with a not bad FOH lineup. C7 might be a good replacement system for it, provided you have 2 people to set the PA system up everytime, as the top boxes weigh in at 52kgs each and the subs at 49kgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw1981 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Anyone know where I can dry hire C7's in the North East Of England? TMC in Bradford or Wigwam in Heywood Lancs are both d&b rental houses and sales partners And in the other direction, Warehouse in Edinburgh and DM Audio in Musselburgh both have rental stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart91 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Many thanks, sounds like C7 may be the way to go. The right mix of portability and power. I'll have to be patient on the second hand market. Keep an eye on Bob Kelly. He often has D&B listed and you might find a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyP1955 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Does the current system have the coverage, output, and sound quality that you need? If so: Build cases or casterboards for the tops (in pairs or all four). Bolt the subs together in pairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfreak Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 We are probably doing the same kind of gigs and we are using, 1 x tts18a per side and 1 x tt25a top per side and it does a fantastic job too, never really pushing the PA and sounds just great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltonguy Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 hi there, if youre interested we have an immaculate HK Audio Deacon system for sale. let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 How's about...1 Q7 and a B2 (Or pair of Q subs) per side?Might be just do able for £10k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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