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Hi all

Firstly, I've read this thread already;

http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?show...aded&start=

A drum screen is the only solution that will really work for this particular job - unless somebody has a clever idea I've not come up with!

 

It's like this........

We Will Rock You at a local school. The hall has a side hall to stage left of the pros arch, which is where the band will be going. There is no way of dividing the side hall off from the main hall, so the band are in the same room as the audience. The drummer is a student, who will no doubt quite enjoy being Roger Taylor for the night. Meanwhile I've got a quiet chorus on stage (speaking parts are all on radio mics) that I need to hear. I'm employing a backstage vocal booth, but I still need to loose as much of the real sound of the kit possible. It will be mic'd up but I'm really concerned about bleed into the other band mics (we have woodwind - on WWRY!) and the hall has given me problems with band straying into the stage mics before.

 

Soooo, I'm in need of a drum screen. Some dampening behind the kit won't be a problem, it's purely the screen I'm after.

 

The show is in Leeds, but anywhere in Yorkshire (preferably West) would be useful to know about. I've tried the inventories of all my usual hire companies, nothing! I've also tried Northern Drum Centre in Bradford and Scheerers Drum shop in Leeds, they had no ideas either! Wigwam sell them, but I can't see them on hire and they're a bit far away if I can help it.

 

Help!!

C

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try wigwam in manchester or any good Sound Company they will be able to ship to you.

 

most companies dont have them on there hire lists. I know Wigwam have them call and speak to Paul or Phil.

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When we did WWRY a couple of years ago we had that problem.

We ended up changing for a digital kit. Worked really well for us, and if your going to mic up the kit anyway it might be worth a try.

 

Paul

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Depending on the length of the run it can sometimes be just as cheap to buy yourself one.

Studiospares have this one for £363. http://www.studiospares.com/Acoustic-Scree...ion/invt/463020

 

It's well constructed and functions well and is large enough to surround a good sized kit.

We bought one last week and has been serving us proud for the latest main house show.

 

Regards

Dom

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Depending on the length of the run it can sometimes be just as cheap to buy yourself one.

Studiospares have this one for £363. http://www.studiospares.com/Acoustic-Scree...ion/invt/463020

Great stuff! I guess that's getting near the hire price for a two week run, plus getting it here from Manchester if we'd gone for Wigwam.

 

Will talk to the financial bods at the school. Buying rather than hiring may mean a different budget and pot of money. I fail to understand school finances! It's not something I'll have the work for to warrant buying myself.

 

If there is somebody local with one to hire, I'd still be interested in hearing about it.

 

C

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I've got one in Nottingham that you could hire. I'm not a hire company or anything, but I don't use mine much. That's probably further away than Heywood though.

Thanks for the offer. It might be a bit far away, especially compared to wigwam. I had a brain wave last night and am currently emailing local colleges that offer sound engineering/music technology courses. I'm sure at least one of them will have one. Think I even remember seeing one on a visit a year or two ago, shame I can't remember which college it was!

 

Thanks all

 

C

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Ah at last I've worked out what the perspex screen is used for ?

I saw one used at the Royal Albert Hall for the Band Of HM Royal Marines

I couldn't work out why they had it not being a Sound guy it has puzzled me for ages.

 

Ps If anyone is interested I took my dad as a birthday Present I Only went as a driver and thought I'd hate it

having listened to marching music all my early life

But the show was amazing watching the drummers do there thing is jaw dropping amazing

and playing music from the movies.

Id reccomend it 100%

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Hi

 

We have drum screens available for hire - VME in Knutsford, Cheshire.

 

Please call the office on 01565 652 202 if you would like to get something booked in. I'm sure we can sort out a hire charge with delivery that works within your budget :bleh:

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Hi all

Firstly, I've read this thread already;

http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?show...aded&start=

A drum screen is the only solution that will really work for this particular job - unless somebody has a clever idea I've not come up with!

 

It's like this........

We Will Rock You at a local school. The hall has a side hall to stage left of the pros arch, which is where the band will be going. There is no way of dividing the side hall off from the main hall, so the band are in the same room as the audience. The drummer is a student, who will no doubt quite enjoy being Roger Taylor for the night. Meanwhile I've got a quiet chorus on stage (speaking parts are all on radio mics) that I need to hear. I'm employing a backstage vocal booth, but I still need to loose as much of the real sound of the kit possible. It will be mic'd up but I'm really concerned about bleed into the other band mics (we have woodwind - on WWRY!) and the hall has given me problems with band straying into the stage mics before.

 

Soooo, I'm in need of a drum screen. Some dampening behind the kit won't be a problem, it's purely the screen I'm after.

 

The show is in Leeds, but anywhere in Yorkshire (preferably West) would be useful to know about. I've tried the inventories of all my usual hire companies, nothing! I've also tried Northern Drum Centre in Bradford and Scheerers Drum shop in Leeds, they had no ideas either! Wigwam sell them, but I can't see them on hire and they're a bit far away if I can help it.

 

Help!!

C

 

I like the suggestion that Paul had re a digital drum kit.... the students where I teach seem to love playing around on them!

 

but I've done a little internet research for you and have these links, following up orchestral percussion hire... at least they could point you in the right direction.

 

http://elitepercussion.com/equipment/hire.html

 

http://www.rncm.ac.uk/component/option,com...318/Itemid,131/

 

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Awesome, everyone's been loads of help. I'm waiting for word back from a couple of the local (ish) colleges. The technician at the school in question has a few contacts with Wakefield college, so I'm exploring that avenue too. Clearly a "lend to a local school" is better for them than a hire or buy, but that's not to say a hire is out of the question by any means, it was my initial intention before the idea of the colleges came up.

 

Whats so special about the drum screens when compared to just a normal sheet of perspex? Wat thickness are they? Are they damped at all? The joints are where I'd guess the clever stuff comes in. I only say this because next to where I work is a huge plastics company who give me a decent discount if I flash my work ID at them. I've got sheets of Lexan plastic of varying thickness from them before for not a lot of money. If all these things are is just a sheet of normal perspex, I could make one up.

I guess however, that there's more to them than that. Looking at the prices to buy, I'd hope there's a bit more science involved than just buying a sheet of plastic. I guess the material used is pretty dense. Despite having mixed a kit surrounded by one, I've never been up close and personal with one.

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I'm fairly sure they're just sheets of plastic. Don't know what kind of plastic. I don't know how you'd make the bendy bits in between the sheets though. When I bought mine, I was led to believe that large sheets of plastic are actually quite expensive, and didn't work out that much cheaper. There's a company in the UK somewhere that makes their own using this exact 'it's just a few sheets of plastic' thought, but theirs are pretty much the same price as the Clearsonic ones, maybe even more, given that price from Studiospares.
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Whats so special about the drum screens when compared to just a normal sheet of perspex? Wat thickness are they? Are they damped at all? The joints are where I'd guess the clever stuff comes in.

In order...

Nothing. 6mm(ish). No. Ish.

 

For a quick and cheap solution you'd probably get away with 3 sheets of Perspex and a roll of gaffa tape to join the corners. Slightly nicer would be some aluminium extrusion to use at the corners. If you didn't want it hinged then look at the sort of stuff used to frame out exhibition stands or other display systems. You can get extrusion designed to take 6mm panels.

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