Live PA 600 and 250

[robhall3192]

hi guys ,

got live pub bands event tomorrow. Borrowing some speaskers from a friend. Looked at hte power and I have a pair of 300W and pair of 250W speakers. No alot compared to major bands I know.

Will the band members hear the 250W monitors with the 300W as FOH speakers ?

[johndenim]

Are the 'monitors' actual wedges?

 

If positioned correctly and the FOH boxes are in front of the band, I think so yes.

Are you going to send the FOH mix to these?

A bit more info on the boxes might help.

[mkfs9]

hi guys ,

got live pub bands event tomorrow. Borrowing some speaskers from a friend. Looked at hte power and I have a pair of 300W and pair of 250W speakers. No alot compared to major bands I know.

Will the band members hear the 250W monitors with the 300W as FOH speakers ?

 

 

Are these self powered speakers or are passive with external amps. if they are powered boxes the monitors will be plenty loud enough provding the stage volume is reasonable.I would be more concerned with the foh at only 300 per side. Not much if you intend miking any back line up. If just for vocals and the venue is not to big should get away with it.

[robhall3192]

Both sets of speakers are standered speakers, but hte monitors will become wedged upwards. The idea was to mainly use them for vocals and then mic up the amps but using alot of the amps volume. They are externally powered with seperate amps. The venue as far as I know is pretty small its the local village pub, not a massive hall. The FOH will ahve some electric keys and drums through them along with the vocals. All the speakers will probably be used on high volume.

[Killyp]

Depends entirely on the speakers. Some speakers produce far more sound per watt than others. A particular '250 watt' speaker springs to mind which seems very common among most venues which produces a useless amount of sound for it's rated input.

[robhall3192]

Both sets speakers are Pro-Sound.

And thanks for some quick replys guys. This is my first major technician job so just wanting everything to be smooth.

[johndenim]

As it's a pub you won't need loads of SPL, (TBH you won't get it with those cabs) but make sure the backline is not too loud, aim the monitors up at the ears, keep the overall level acceptable. (you can easily damage those prosounds)

 

Personally I wouldn't bother miking up the drums or guitars in a small venue, unless you have experience of it.

How many channels do you have on your mixer anyway?

 

What amps have you got please?

[Killyp]

Agreed RE micing up the drums, unless the ceiling is high in which case a simple single overhead will do the job.

 

On top of johndenim's question, what model is your mixer?

[robhall3192]

Plan is not to mic up drums. even in a school hall they are often more powerful than the amps. Got 2 electric drum kits so a couple of bands having through the PA direct.

Bands are bringing small amps, as small stage and I've found they often work if the amps are turned down and miced through PA simply to get hte balance - as guitarists of small groups love to play full volume then the vocals dont match.

I'm using a 16 channel behringer mixer - figured it out as it isn't my normal allen and heath. Amps are 1 x 500W and 1 x 600W - for the speakers.

thanks for reply's guys ill close this off sat evening as the event starts 1pm Sat.

[paulears]

The electronic drums are only through the PA? They will really need monitors - the stage sound will be horrible, Imagine hearing what you play coming back after a bounce of the walls, and if the gig is full, having it soaked up by the punters.

[Killyp]

I personally would want to put the drum pads in close proximity to each other and try and place a monitor pretty close-by. Even if the speakers are pointing in the right direction, it's no use if half the sound reaching the drummers is reflected.