dbuckley Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 You guys never think outside the box, do you. All you need the mic on the dartboard to do is pickup the trigger, after that what the audience hears is whatever comes out of your sampler. So I'd use the piezo as suggested above, into the Alesis DM5 to detect the hit, MIDI cable from that to the old (but still good) Roland S-760 sampler, and thence out to the PA. You might want to try the same on a kick drum - makes the incessent arguments about "what mic should I use for kick" all go away, and saves a gate, and maybe even a compressor for those who like to torture the kick in that manner...
subsOn Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 You guys never think outside the box, do you. All you need the mic on the dartboard to do is pickup the trigger, after that what the audience hears is whatever comes out of your sampler. So I'd use the piezo as suggested above, into the Alesis DM5 to detect the hit, MIDI cable from that to the old (but still good) Roland S-760 sampler, and thence out to the PA. You might want to try the same on a kick drum - makes the incessent arguments about "what mic should I use for kick" all go away, and saves a gate, and maybe even a compressor for those who like to torture the kick in that manner... might I suggest that the op wishes to capture the sound of the dartboard being struck, complete with all the variances inherent in different darts striking the board in different places? the same also applies to kick drums - since the drummer has spent a lot of money on the kick drum, and learned how to play it dynamically, with tonal variation, then it seems appropriate to use a microphone to capture that as well. I'm not saying there isn't a place for triggered drums, or triggers in other situations, but I don't believe this is one of them. The accurate reproduction of the dartboard sound would surely add to the spectator's experience of the game, consciously or otherwise.
Shez Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 the drummer has spent a lot of money on the kick drum, and learned how to play it dynamically, with tonal variation I've not had the fortune of meeting many drummers who fulfilled even a single one of those criteria :)
henny Posted March 8, 2009 Author Posted March 8, 2009 Just done said gig. and what I ended up doing was, the dartboard was maunted on a stand mase of 1/4" ply covered in felt, so I fixed a PZM to the back of this ply (the wrong way round - pickup towards the wood) behind the daerboard , then to help block out any background sound I stapled over a few layers of felt. with a little Eq IT worked quite well, got a good thud with a bit of a click, and diffrent parts of the board sounded diffrent. appart from when some one missed the board and hit the back board we got one heck of a clunck. cheers ian
johndenim Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Wouldn't it have been funny if instead of live miking the board, you had some sound effects like a clowns car horn (awwwooooga!) or a fart sound whenever the dart hit the board? Do you think the players would have been able to concentrate?
mervaka Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 clowns car horn (awwwooooga!)a Klaxon? I have one of those! ;)
Jammie300 Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Hello, 5 Year Thread Revival! I am looking to mic up a dartboard for an event and have seen some great ideas on this thread so far. I was thinking along the lines of a contact mic taped to the rear of the dartboard at the same height as the T20. My assumption based on this thread is that I would need some sort of decent EQ to go with this? Does anyone have ideas that have worked over these last 5 years? Cheers James
paulears Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 I tried some of these ideas just after this topic started and was amazed how unlike my brain says it sounds, did it really sound. The real sound with a mic was a very unimpressive 'duh' sound, and the contact idea produced a lower pitched thud - neither sounded right. I think the sample idea with a constructed thud would be a good idea. It's a bit like when you try Foley for the first time. If you drop things and record what they sound like, it's very depressing - sounds nothing like the real thing. Worst is somebody collapsing onto the ground - it hardly makes a noise!
david.elsbury Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Which reminds me, I did a conference last year that had a competition on the second day, get 4 audience members up and whoever shoots the most baskets wins the prize. I miked the hoop just beside the net with a lapel capsule. Party because I had no sound check time I was reluctant to really push the level, I got a very satisfying thump but not much swish of the net. Fun anyway though :)
GaryNattrass Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 For TV we tend to add some gated reverb ala the AMS RMX16. Haven't done darts for many years but seem to recall we had an SM58 behind the board and a condenser mic out front above it.
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