ChazHS Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Would your forehead count? That could leave two hands free..... I have to say I find that easiest when I need both hands and I can't lean my chest against the ladder because Im too high up it. Head on trussing whilst moving Macs about! =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I have to say I find that easiest when I need both hands and I can't lean my chest against the ladder because Im too high up it. Head on trussing whilst moving Macs about! =PErm, ouch. If you can't lean against the ladder because you're too high up it, then you are too high up it and you should probably get a longer ladder. Leaning against the truss could push the ladder away from the truss (fixed truss with leaning ladder), or the truss could swing away and cause you to slip (hung truss with A-frame ladder). Either way, the accident wouldn't be fun. A colleague of mine had an a-frame ladder collapse underneath him, and it was a distinctly bad day for everyone. It took a month to finish the focus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Joines Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Would your forehead count? That could leave two hands free..... I have to say I find that easiest when I need both hands and I can't lean my chest against the ladder because Im too high up it. Head on trussing whilst moving Macs about! =P knees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitlane Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Guess What? HSE did a report a few years ago on the effectiveness of footing ladders. RR205 - Evaluating the performance and effectiveness of ladder stability devices Only 287 pages (plus another 70 for the Technical Annexe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Why do most people who foot a Zarges when in A frame extended mode always insist on standing on the stabiliser bar end of the 'A'. If the ladder ever went over because the person at the top is too hgh up and therefore over the balance point then the footer is going to get a facefull of ladder. Never undertood that one. Likewise the self same people never wear a hard hat when standing in that position which is directly underneath the person at the top and therefore in the path of falling spanners, podgers, nuts, bolts, hinge pins etc... I always correct people and I always get funny looks. And I usually do it politely. Its a funny old game sometimes... ps my quad spanner is attached to me with a lanyard. Think that I have dropped it more times since I started doing that than I ever did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Footing a zarges in it's A frame mode is also pretty pointless. Far better to add sideways stability be standing at the side - if these get unstable, it is usually when somebody leans sideways. In fact the same thing applies to most big A-frames. Footing a ladder in traditional mode is done to stop the bottom kicking out, A-frames can't do this, but can fall sideways, even with the extended footer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Footing a zarges in it's A frame mode is also pretty pointless. Indeed. If you never go above what Zarges recommend as the top rung, it will not overbalance. I am quite happy to climb them withou anyone at the foot. Not so much with the Youngman copies. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritch Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Another good reason not to foot Zarges is because you might end up with me nearly kicking you in the head on the way down. A (rather simple) volunteer member of our crew decided to do just that, and missed my boot by mere inches as I descended. ...this was followed by him being yelled at, and given something "useful" to do by the SM. He's not really bothered me since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikienorth Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 So... When using a Zarges as a freestanding extension, is it a stepladder, or a leaning ladder? I'm having a paperwork night, and this is tonight's mission, now the rigging schedule and training audit is finished..... I can't decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 It's a special case of stepladder. If you're having a paperwork night, then now is the perfect time to grab the manufacturer's user manual/usage guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Beech Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 When in extended mode, when you get with your waist relatively level to the top of the A / start of the extension, always give em a shake to iron out the play in the metal clip (the cross part of the A). Do this then or be prepared for a shock further up when it does it for you. They're often like it from new aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleah Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 When in extended mode, when you get with your waist relatively level to the top of the A / start of the extension, always give em a shake to iron out the play in the metal clip (the cross part of the A). Do this then or be prepared for a shock further up when it does it for you. They're often like it from new aswell. :unsure: B-) :D :o :** laughs out loud **: :** laughs out loud **: Been there, done that! Ours did it from new. Scared the out of me the first time they 'kicked' :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 now is the perfect time to grab the manufacturer's user manual/usage guide.Does anybody have one of these for a set of Zarges? Doesn't seem to be on their web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Does anybody have one of these for a set of Zarges? Doesn't seem to be on their web site. Try asking Flint Hire and Supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatman Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 There's lots of useful stuff on the Ladders Direct website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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