mizxco Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hey Guys. I'm working at a high school now. It's all new to me.There's this rock show going on here and I was just wondering, am I doing the right thing? The method I'm using right now is plugging the lead from the wireless transmission pack into the guitar,Receiver output into the FX paddles, then from the FX output to the Marshall ampsand finally an SM58 to pick up the sound from amps to main PA. But the thing is when performers want to change their FX, they'll have to walk all the way to the ampsor else there'll be long cables running along the stage which doesn't look right nor safe (even taped) Am I doing the right thing? or should I be doing something different here? Thank alot guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Why do you think it is not safe to have cables running along the floor on stage? It is done everyday and you just have to be careful. There is nothing wrong with your setup as such, but it isn't what you would normally see. I would have thought it would be easier to have the FX where ever the guitar player needs it then running a cable along the edge of the stage or taping it down well along a route that reduce the risk of tripping. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ross Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Neither way is right or wrong. I have seen some people put their receivers next to the pedals and only having one cable going back to their amps. I have also seen a few custom wiring jobs where the signal to the pedals is sent and returned down a normal 3core cable with a 3pin XLR on each end. (I even saw one with a 5pin that carried the down down) When I did my setup I toyed with this idea and in the end I decided to have my receiver in the rack that sits on top of my amp and having a short cable to goes to my one effects pedal that I keep close to the amp anyway as I don’t sing. Personally if I had lots of pedals on a board I would go down the 3 core cable idea but with backup cables so I could unpatch the customer cable and use 2 normal guitar cables should I have an unexpected problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervaka Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 can I just ask what's wrong with standard guitar leads? how big is your stage? belt packs require batteries. last time I worked with a wireless system, the battery died. the guy ended up pulling a cable out anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ross Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 can I just ask what's wrong with standard guitar leads? how big is your stage? belt packs require batteries. last time I worked with a wireless system, the battery died. the guy ended up pulling a cable out anyway. I personally use a wireless so I can walk on and off stage and also not get tangled up but I have a cable hanging on the latch of my flightcase that I can use in the case of a wireless failure and swap out in a few seconds (touch wood it has never happened!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Pretty well everyone with pedals on the floor and racks and amps on/near the cabs has cables loomed together and laid on the floor. Industry standard practice I'd have said. If you put the wireless on the floor, it still needs power, and has a cable going back, no different to having it the other way really. Just a necessary evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizxco Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Why do you think it is not safe to have cables running along the floor on stage? It is done everyday and you just have to be careful. There is nothing wrong with your setup as such, but it isn't what you would normally see. I would have thought it would be easier to have the FX where ever the guitar player needs it then running a cable along the edge of the stage or taping it down well along a route that reduce the risk of tripping. Josh Thanks josh, that'll mean I've got to get some ultra-long TRS-TRS cables to connect several FX outputs (or simply output for some) to run back to where the Marshall Amps are. Darn it. We're lacking much Jack cables already, not to mention longer ones. Would it be absolutely ridiculous to wire another wireless system for this connection as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Beech Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 If you have the budget to do it then 2 wireless sets would work. It's silly but it would work. But if you think that you're restricted in budget to buy long cables, surely you're restricted in buying more wireless gear. Just remember the amount of frequencies you are using and whether you need licenses for them in your part of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Langfeld Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 ultra-long ... to run back to where the Marshall Amps are. Darn it Ultra-long? How big is your stage?! Guitar cable is cheap. As Rob says, a hell of a lot cheaper than a wireless system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizxco Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Thanks both, this is kind of a weird place. We've got plenty of expensive wireless than wired SM58s.and I'm planning to use them on the drums which I think is quite reasonable (Wireless Drums? o.0). On the other hand, we've got 20 transmitter packs and only 4 guitarists so should be fine.but seriously? 8 wireless systems hanging around? If one goes down, it'll be so annoying to find out which.Not to mention batteries and such and lacking back-up leads. Anyways, wish me best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 ... 8 wireless systems hanging around? If one goes down, it'll be so annoying to find out which. Anyways, wish me best of luck Hi Sorry but you really don't want to be relying on luck! Label all the transmitters 1-8, the receivers 1-8 and on the desk label the channels Radio 1-8 as well as what inst/person they are on.If one 'goes down' it will then be blatently obvious which one, you will know where it is, and be able to fix the problem, hopefully.You have to have at least one spare cable of each type, not an option to not have spares really.... Hope it goes well! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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