Hugh Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Having three Yamaha digital consoles (two M7's and n LS9) all still under warranty, we have been experiencing problems with fader calibration, and failure to recalibrate. Whilst Yamaha have been fine with swapping these faulty faders under warranty, I was wondering how many others have experienced this problem or have I just been unlucky? Obviously this issue brings in to question the long term running costs of these consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Well, of the Yamaha mixers I've had long term experience of over the last 9 years (01, 02, 03, DM1K, DM2K), fader calibration hasn't been an issue. However, my experience of the M7 and LS9 has only been walk-up and rental--I've not encountered any problems on them but my time spent using them has been much more restricted. One obscure thought: the only time I had any fader calibration issues at all, it turned out to be a static electricity problem (the designer for the show I was on "decorated" the mix position with plasma balls). I rather doubt plasma balls are your problem ;) but could there be some other common source of static...nylon carpets and central heating or something? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallMike Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 We have an M7CL and a LS9 - and I don't get the impression that the faders are of the same standard of the DM2000 for example - and I've noticed that some move slightly slower than others. The latest LS9 software update slows the fader speed down to solve calibration and noise issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatBigHippy Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hmmm, I use an 01v96 which has been running for 2 years with no real problems. The calibration isn't perfect, even after recalibration the faders don't seem to go back to the nice even line that I created but as they are only 1-2mm off I've never thought it worth bothering with.Is your calibration off by a lot more that this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strandgsx Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 As above we own two m7cl's and two ls9's, been running for a while now and experienced no problems, on our own shows and when sent out on dry rentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK thanks everyone that's great to hear that this might well be an isolated misfortune. Can I ask have you specifically checked the fader calibration and or attempted recalibration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppaDom Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Just out of curiosity how/where are the desks being stored and what is their typical usage/cycle? Dom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_hate_fisicks Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 We've had an LS9 with very iffy faders. I believe they've all been replaced now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Whilst touring I have seen several different M7CL desks with badly behaved faders.I have also seen it on the one and only LS9 that has ever been plonked in front of me. A very rough, slightly generous to Yamaha and not slightly scientific calculation ( number of fader quirks I can remember / number of M7's I've seen in the last 4 months) would be that 1 in 5 desks have a fader fault. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Just out of curiosity how/where are the desks being stored and what is their typical usage/cycle? Dom Desks are stored in our warehouse in their flightases. Typical usage is on one nighter touring shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhuson Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 We don't have any LS9's or M7's (although two M7's are iminent) only 01v, DM1000's and DM2000's and in general we've only had a couple of fader problems one of which was when a can of coke ended up in a DM1000! Only other incident I can think of was fairly recently when one of our DM1000s had a fader that wasn't behaving and a recalibration sorted that out. Only other time I know of fader calibration being done was when we upgraded to V2 software and this was part of the update process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanalkema Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 In general Yamaha desks' faders will start juttering and missing '0' by a few millimeters because of dust. Especially after 3 years of use. There is now a new dust-free fader replacement that can be done on a M7CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Beech Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 The new dust free faders on the M7 are a massive improvement and something that will be replaced under warranty and often replaced out of warranty. The LS9's have these by default but I've known them to need attention from time to time. Yamaha service department is absolutely fantastic, good set of guys and really helpful, can't recommend them enough. It'd be stupid to send one of their boards elsewhere for any work. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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