geek3 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Does anyone know where I can get a cheap used Crowd blinder? I am having trouble finding one. wanting par 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Try the sources listed in the Frequently Asked Questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 OP is in the states, so I guess they won't be much help. But you may find that new ones can be just as cheap from your local supplier (normally require wiring). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geek3 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 couldn't find one, also need a site in USA edit: sorry, Niclights your post wasn't there until I refreshed. the only thing we got here locally is Stage sound which doesn't seam to carry them, I would like to find one on ebay or craigslist (doesn't really mater were in the us) I only want to spend under $100, and I don't want LED, just standard par, and it doesn't have to included lamps A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. I wonder if this is any good?http://www.chinesedepartmentstore.com.cn/o...roducts_id/2709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmxtothemax Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Does anyone know where I can get a cheap used Crowd blinder? I am having trouble finding one. wanting par 36 Why do you want a par 36?I use five 500w linear tungsten halogen flood lights across the back of the stage,while you might not need five, even one or two would do nicely.these lights are very cheap, around twelve dollars (australian) at the discount stores.recomended for cheap crowd blinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokm Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Why do you want a par 36?Err... cus that's the standard type of lamp. Perhaps by par36, your thinking 30w pinspots lamps?? A 4cell mole with 650w DWE par36 lamps is easily going to beat some floods. Yes, it might be cheaper to use the halogen floods, but its not quite the same effect. In regards to the OP's question, google TMB, and give they're US office a ring. They might have some budget mole's kicking around.. Other than that, you could try http://www.solarisnetwork.com/ or http://www.gearsource.com/ HTH. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 ...but its not quite the same effect. Explain please. Whenever I want to blind the audience I just use two 1kW floods. They do the job perfectly well. I'm not sure how using some Molefays would be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart91 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I wonder if this is any good?http://www.chinesedepartmentstore.com.cn/o...roducts_id/2709 It almost certainly won't include the lamps, which will add significantly to the total price. +1 to the suggestion of using security floods. I still have a few bars of them somewhere in our warehouse. They're extremely cheap to buy (around £5 in the UK) and bulbs can cost as little as 50p each if you shop around. (Make sure you don't buy the versions with integrated PIR detectors) ;) http://www.diy-alarms.co.uk/catalog/images/timeguard_cfb500_flood.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJones Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hello, PRG are bsed all around the world and quite often sell there used gear. Could be worth seeing where there nearest place is and getting in touch with them?Website contact page HTH AndyJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I wonder if this is any good?http://www.chinesedepartmentstore.com.cn/o...roducts_id/2709 Yes, that's fine. With wiring it's not a bad deal and saves some effort. The only thing I would consider is the chrome bits. If you can find one all black then it might be better if it concerns you, but probably comes with a premium. DWE is the way to go - as Tokm says it is the standard. The lamps have a unique effect. Other pars, MR16's and, heaven forbid, linear floods are not the same. There's no substitute IMO.Can be used in many locations as said. They don't have to be 'blinding' either. Absolutely beautiful on a glow through haze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geek3 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 couldn't I just use heat safe paint, and paint the chrome parts? cause most other one I've seen are $500+, I guess on top of this I will pay about $200 for lamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Don't see why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete LD Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 ...but its not quite the same effect. Explain please. Whenever I want to blind the audience I just use two 1kW floods. They do the job perfectly well. I'm not sure how using some Molefays would be any different. Its just not the same!. You can blind the audience with most fixtures but moles are the best way to do it. as Niclights says the glow thro haze uuuuuuu, and a congo blue backlight.... very nice!! edit to answer the question...1k floods will light everything, the band the truss the wings etc where as the proper dwes will just light what ever you point them at. ie the audience.looks better. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamharman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The main reason why PAR36 are better is the beam angle. Security floods chuck light everywhere, which may not be a problem, but the tighter beam of a DWE lamp makes it appear much brighter and more concentrated. I used to use security floods until a visiting band had some proper blinders and I realised how much better they were! Edit: Pete types quicker than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 +1 to the suggestion of using security floods. I still have a few bars of them somewhere in our warehouse. They're extremely cheap to buy (around £5 in the UK) and bulbs can cost as little as 50p each if you shop around. (Make sure you don't buy the versions with integrated PIR detectors) ;) http://www.northerntooluk.com/images/product_images/thumb/20100E.jpgBe careful about using these d0mestic security floodlights. I had a near miss once when what I suspect was a bit of grit got between the glass and the securing frame. A bit after turning it on, there was a loud crack and the glass fractured into a few hundred pieces. Since it was installed on a downward strut from a marquee frame, as an uplighter, none of the glass fell out, but it could have been a major hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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