stevendrums24 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Does any body know what would happen if Unique fluid was used in a Technohaze?I have looked at the data sheets for both fluids and it seems to me that they are almost the same, just a slightly different mixture. Are the heater cores in a Unique, Neutron Star, Jem24/7 etc larger than a smoke machine heater core such as the Pro2000? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csg Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 why on earth would you want to? you would invalidate any remaining warranty you would not comply with any health and safety regs regarding use of atmospherics and finally, unique fluid is considerably more expensive than technohaze fluid If you are not happy with the performance of the technohaze, the answer is another hazer, not to start messing around with what you put through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevendrums24 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 why on earth would you want to? you would invalidate any remaining warranty you would not comply with any health and safety regs regarding use of atmospherics and finally, unique fluid is considerably more expensive than technohaze fluid If you are not happy with the performance of the technohaze, the answer is another hazer, not to start messing around with what you put through it I got a cheap technohaze and I am not really that bothered about if breaks or not. After servicing a unique and a technohaze there isn't a great deal of difference between the two. They both work on the same principle of atomizing water with glycols. Appart from the fluid possibly clogging up the heater core there is nothing really that can go wrong. There is no warrenty left on the unit so I am not bothered about voiding that. What would the health and safety man say? I think he would have more to say if I was using an old crack oil hazer that stunk and caused a load of skin and eye iritations. Anyway I did acquire 2L of unique fluid and so far it is working a treat. My fluid consumption is absolutly minimal now, such a better fluid than the ProHaze fluid. The air is now dry! A lot better effect now, seems to work like a hazer not just a smoke machine with a fan on it. It may cost the same to run i.e. 2L of fluid costs just slightly less than 9.5L of ProHaze but I may run out of fluid over the same amount of time. Overall certainly a cheap option to achieving a relativly good hazer now , alot cheaper than a Unique. Eventually I will buy a propper Unique when the money allows but for now this will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinE Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'd have said that its more about the quality than the composition that does harm or not. Both machines' own fluid are good quality so if it works for you I'd think it was ok! It tends to be the cheap 'DJ' brands that leave limescale in the heater capilliary which eventually writes it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cowles Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Please do not try this, all smoke and haze machines work by heating the specific fluid to a specific temperature (depending on the composition of the fluid) if you use the wrong fuild in a machince there is the potential that you can damage the machince (the most likely outcome), or more worryingly the machine will output but not completely vapourise the fluid, this could result in a very hot and painful liquid shooting out the front of the machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleah Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I may be dreaming, but I'm sure I read somewhere about the risk of producing carcinogens when mix'n'matching fluids and machines :D Maybe someone educated on here could enlighten us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevendrums24 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 If the two heater cores are at, or nearly at, the same temperature on the two machines then surely there should not be a problem. They both work on the same principle and acheive it in nearly the same way. So therefore I can't really see a big problem in that. Correct me if I am wrong tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cowles Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I may be dreaming, but I'm sure I read somewhere about the risk of producing carcinogens when mix'n'matching fluids and machines :) Maybe someone educated on here could enlighten us? I don't know so much about producing carcinogens exactly but there is certainly a risk in some cases where the fluid will produce a toxic smoke if used in the wrong machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaffa Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Using the wrong fluid in machines will do one of several things, "Burnt fog, which can be dangerous, where Glycol products are used, the composition can change to poisonous substances such as formaldehyde. Wet fog, slippery floors, messy deposits. It can also be a "damp squib" at best at worst poisonous, It can also cause skin irritations, breathing difficulties." Quoted from James Eade, LSI Technical Focus, December 2008, ESTA, have produced a booklet "The Introduction to Modern Atmospheric Effects" ABTT "Pyrotechnics and Smoke Effects" has been around for a while. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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