Pearl Quick Palette

[Biskit]

I have a gig coming up: Rig consists of several Mac 500s, most on stage, but two on an advanced truss for specials. There will also be some Goldenscan HPEs on stage.

 

On this event I want to use quick palettes, but have them not affect the two Mac 500s on the advanced truss. Can I do this by saving all palettes with individual values stored for each fixture, and not selecting the two advanced macs at all while doing this?

 

This way, if I use eg. my 'blue' palette, all fixtures will go blue, except the two advanced Macs which would not have values stored in that palette?

 

I know I could work this out on the day, but it is an issue I haven't had before as I usually op rigs with all fixtures on stage and hence use shared palettes which apply to all fixtures of the same type. Programming time will be very limited so I'm planning my strategy in advance!

 

Many thanks,

 

Ben.

[HobitLight]

IIRC, on the Pearl, only the selcted fixtures at time of programming the palette shall be programmed into the palette. Therefore, if the two MACs on the truss are not selected when you record, they should not be affected when you recall a palatte.

[tom_the_LD]

On the pearl, select one of the mac 500's and create the palette you wish. So select the fixture, home it, set your colour to blue, click store palette, click colour (this will then only store the colour information) and click the palette you wish to store to.

 

Then, when you wish to recall your palette, select the 4 fixtures on stage using the 4 blue swop keys, then click that palette and all the fixtures selected will go blue. When recording palettes, selecting dimmer will store every attribute, whilst selecting individual attributes will allow you to chose.

 

Also, you could record some bits onto the subs which you know are definite. For example, if you know you are going to want EVERY light to go blue at some point, make sure you are in record by channel mode, select the lights and home them and put the colour blue in them and save the memory to a sub. In this record mode only data which you physically put in the programmer is stored as opposed to everything. Homing a light does not count as putting any data in the programmer. Now with this it means that regardless of what the lights are going, pushing this sub will make all the ones you recorded into the memory go blue without affecting any other attribute.

 

If you did the same thing in record by fixture, when you pushed the sub up they would all go to the home position and blue as this will capture EVERYTHING that's going on, not just what has changed.

 

Hope at least some of that helps!!

 

 

*As always with the Pearl - double pressing 'clear' is your friend!!!*

[johnhuson]

As correctly stated if you only have certain fixtures selected when you recall a palette, it will only be applied to those fixtures. However the OP wants to use quick palettes which allows you to recall palettes without selecting fixtures at all so this doesn't apply.

 

So to directly answer your question Biskit if you want to use quick palettes, providing that you have no data for your MAC 500s on the advanced truss stored in the palette your recalling then they want be effected. Of course you need to make sure you haven't stored your palettes with only one unit selected as described above else it won't work.

 

EDIT: Just to add back in what I edited out as I started to doubt myself, it's late! Thanks for the reassurance Nic. I was stating that it's the information that's in the programmer that's stored in the palette not what fixtures are selected.

[niclights]

I'm afraid you have rather missed the point Tom. Storing based on a single fixture will create a 'shared' palette which is the opposite of what is required. Ben wants to use Quick Palettes and therefore needs 'normal' palettes.

 

Selecting more than one fixture will create normal palettes and, yes, simply place required info in programmer and store. QP will then only recall exactly the fixtures/attributes recorded (dependant on attribute mask).

 

/edit: You needn't have edited your post John. Having checked, I'm fairly certain you were right, Hobit and I were wrong. You cannot filter at the time of storing by selecting fixtures.

 

*As always with the Pearl - double pressing 'clear' is your friend!!!*

You can press it as many times as you like but only one press is required :P

[DonkiDonki]

You can press it as many times as you like but only one press is required B-)

 

 

You mean that you haven't found the easter egg that pops up after pressing clear a certain number of times? For a bit of fun to pass the times you just have to press it exactly *** times......

 

 

 

 

 

:P

[Biskit]

You can press it as many times as you like but only one press is required :P

You mean that you haven't found the easter egg that pops up after pressing clear a certain number of times? For a bit of fun to pass the times you just have to press it exactly *** times....

 

If that is true then it fills me with hope that perhaps if it is removed, the software and memory space freed up would allow many of Nic's 'wish list' on the Avo Consoles forum to be realised even for the standard pearls (ie not expert).

 

However, I suspect you are pulling our leg!

 

Thanks to all for the replies, it seems to be pretty much as I expected. Knowing that will save me a lot of time on the day!

 

Cheers,

 

Ben.

[tom_the_LD]

Sorry it does appear that I mis-read and misunderstood the original post!

 

Without wanting to go off on too much of a tangent nic, I was led to believe that one press of clear cleared most things (can't remember what) and 2 presses cleared everything.

[niclights]

Without wanting to go off on too much of a tangent nic, I was led to believe that one press of clear cleared most things (can't remember what) and 2 presses cleared everything.

Nope. I think this was true for much older consoles/software. Perhaps Diamond 2? Can't remember. Single press of clear on any Pearl/D4 deselects all fixtures and clears the programmer. GrandMA has staged clearing over three presses IIRC.

[Tomo]

Quite a few consoles have 'staged' clear, so that's probably where you've got it from.

 

Eg: On a Congo 'single-press' clears the number you were typing, while double-press clears the channel selection.

On a SmartFade single-press drops you out of a 'pending' mode (eg waiting for you to say where to record something), and double/triple hits get rid of progressively more output.

[indyld]

GrandMA has staged clearing over three presses IIRC.

 

Correct. On the GrandMA 1 clears the selection. 2 clears the programmer. 3 releases anything under programmer control.

 

It's funny that a lot of Pearl ops, ( including me) do a kind of manic clear/exit/clear/exit thing with thumb and forefinger (edit: just tried it - 1st and 3rd fingers, actually). As Niclights points out, it's all a bit uneccessary to do so many Clears but a common habit none the less.

[tom_the_LD]

Ah ok thanks for clearing that up! I noticed Lindsey do a double click of clear too on the Pearl training course which is also probably why I continued to think this was the case!