tom_the_LD Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Hi guys, On the Fat Frog OLE trying to get in some last minute practise before tomorrow and hopefully save a copy of the patch. The fixtures I'm having problems with are the Eurolite TS-5's. I have a fixture file for them and have loaded it in. According to Thomann these fixtures have a strobe and manual focus ability. However after hunting around the attributes I can't find then anywhere! I've got dimmer, pan/tilt, colour, gobo but I can't for the life of me find shutter and focus. I also haven't found a manual for this product so I can't create my own fixture file. Any help appreciated. Thanks Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieR Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Well from what you're saying, I'm assuming that you're controlling the fixture via the wheels. Providing you have the correct fixture personality file loaded in, if you go to Beamshape and then hit "wheel group", you should get the focus there? I know on the Mac 250 and other various heads if the group has more attributes than the wheels can handle at any one time, the Frog will spread the attributes over several different groups. Hitting "Wheel Group" cycles through the different attribute groups. From the manual: "If there is more than one group of parameters for the selected fixture and attribute, the red light in the WHEEL GROUP button is lit. Pressing the WHEEL GROUP button will cycle through the parameter groups." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simschr Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 The function of the Wheel Group button in the latest version of software has changed. Thanks,Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_the_LD Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Sorry should have said - tried cycling wheel groups but it doesn't do anything. (I've tried on all the ML attributes to cycle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HobitLight Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 It depends on what version of the OS you're using. On some versions, to cycle through you have to hit the attribute button again, IIRC. You say that the fixtures have manual focus. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't these mean that you can manually focus the fixtures manuall on the fixtures, father like focusing a Fresnel, not by doing it on the desk. Also, if it's a 'cheap' fixture, the strobe functionality is probabily built into the dimmer channel. E'g' 0-128 is 0-100% and 129-255 is slow strobe to fast strobe. Let us know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_the_LD Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 That does make sense hobit! I was just thinking the same about dimmer channels - I'll have a play tomorrow. That does seem to make sense about a manual focus - much like a trackspot. I wish there was a manual for this light! Cheers Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvi675 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I wish there was a manual for this light! http://download.showtechnic.de/data/documents/00041914.pdf The English starts on page 18. Finding Eurolite manuals has a definite skill to it! Also, the strobe is hidden in the lower ranges of the Gobo wheel. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_the_LD Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Thanks Matt! I loaded the personality into the fat frog and tried to run the scans but to no luck. They were just not responding to DMX. However, when I manually patched them to the faders, then I had control over them. Very strange! I'm thinking it must be a personality problem. The DMX line isn't terminated though, but surely I wouldn't be able to take control over them manually on the faders if this was the issue? They are running on their own DMX line - output A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham NZ Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Hi Maybe the obvious but once you had assigned them as fixtures you did then patch them? BestGrahamZ88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_the_LD Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yep I did. All sorted now. Turns out the data DMX rate was too fast for the scanners to cope. Putting a linebacker in slowed the DMX down just enough though. I do remember someone saying something about having to do this before. Another question. My pan values are not changing on the thumb wheel. I can move the wheel in any direction (left or right) but the pan value just stays stuck it does not change. Anyone got any ideas? Is it likely to be a loose connection inside or is the wheel locked somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HobitLight Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 When in the position group, cycle through to the next set of position parameters. You should be able to apply basic effects. I think, of the top of my head, that on the thumb wheel is what shape you want. Try to change the shape. If the shape doesn't change either, then it's likely to be a hardware fault. If it does change, then it's the software. Let us know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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