holdmyhobo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hi guys. Recently bought a new mixer and it doesn't have an XLR output needed for most nightclub soundsystems. Would it be possible to knock-up a connector made of two FEMALE XLRs to two MALE PHONOs? They have all the parts in Maplin and two ply wire, its gonna cost roughly €15.Thanks!Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Um, if it's for your outputs you'll want XLR Male. It will always be unbalanced though, which may cause problems. I'm wondering why you didn't buy a mixer with the outputs you need? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdmyhobo Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 because that would be no fun! when you say unbalanced...would it effect the sound quality much? would it be worth while doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 When you say "2 ply wire" what do you mean? This is the Maplin Link for suitable wire. On the MALE XLR you'd need to connect. The Shield to Pin one. The Red to Pin 2. The White to Pin 3. On the Phono you'd need to connect. The Red to the Tip then the Shield and White to the Body of the Connector. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdmyhobo Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 thats the exact wire I meant, cheers Josh. right, I'm off to heat up my soldering iron! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritch Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What mixer is it? Bear in mind that some mixers (especially in the lower end of the market) output a balanced signal on a 1/4" TRS jack, which will effectively give you the same thing you'd get out of an XLR. You can either buy the lead ready made, or make something up yourself. See this PDF for how to wire it: http://www.soundcraft.com/pdf/palz/connections_lead1.pdf (3rd one from the top) I'd be interested to know what you mean by '2-ply wire', though. Speaker cable won't do the job, if that's what you mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 when you say unbalanced...would it effect the sound quality much? would it be worth while doing? It may pick up unwanted noise over the cable run, more so if it's a long distance. This is the whole length of the run, not just the bit of cable you make up, so if you plug in along way from the amps/in-house desk or whatever there could be problems. Is it worth making one? I'm sure I've got one somewhere in my "box of odd things" and it may work fine. You should really have a plan B though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsound Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 You might be better taking your phonos to a pair of 1/4" jacks then through a twin DI box to give you XLRs out. It's a bit of a faff but it will minimise any problems with being unbalanced. If you use passive transformer DIs (as opposed to passive resistor types) these will also give you electrical isolation from the house system should the worst happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 You might be better taking your phonos to a pair of 1/4" jacks then through a twin DI box to give you XLRs out. True. Better still to take the mixer back & trade it up for a decent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsound Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Yup, certainly would. I'm surprised that it didn't come with them. We bought a basic unit (£150) for our hire stock and it came with balanced jacks and XLRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdmyhobo Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 it's a Pioneer DJM-400 so its a fairly decent one...the wire between the phono and the XLR only needs to be an inch long because the XLR is coming from the soundsystem and reaches to the mixer. basically I want the XLR output from this http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/44/74/4...-800/index.html on this http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/44/74/4...-400/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Beesley Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The Art DTI Box may be worth a peek ... you could use phono>>phono or phono>>jack leads and it would give you balanced outputs for the club system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsound Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I see your point about the cable length from the mixer but if you put an unbalanced signal into the sound system cable it will be unbalanced the whole way to the mixer/amp/processor at the other end. If you interpose a DI box it is only unbalanced for a few inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdmyhobo Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 DTI Box looks pretty sweet, but its expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsound Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 That's quite a handy looking box actually Chris, we might invest in one :up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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