Pixel Par 660's

[mattevans]

Does any one have any experience of the Pixel Par 660 from James Thomas Engineering?

 

I have the opportunity to hire four for a dance show, and was wondering if people have any comments on them

 

Thanks

 

Matt Evans

 

Assistant Technician

The Courtyard

Hereford

[peter]

My only experience of the pixel range is the PixelLine 1044s, and I'd say they're pretty good for effects lighting but don't rely on them for your entire rig. They're just not bright enough yet - not even the 18w ones that they had at PLASA. They might work well as a backlight or even as floorcans - although I'm not sure I'd be keen on putting £1k of parcan at the foot of some dancers!

 

HTH

 

 

Peter

[Guest lightnix]

Peter is right, they're not up to doing front washes or area lighting yet (although it won't be too long now). They are best for backlight and specials at the moment and even then you should try not to make the throw more than about four or five metres.

[mattevans]

Thanks for all your replies so far

 

They are much appreciated

 

Thanks

 

Matt

[SceneMaster]

Is there a web address for pixel?

[peter]

PixelPar

[SceneMaster]

Sorry should have googled!!! Waste of you time I am! ;) But thanks anyway :D.

 

They look good but I get the impression they are not very bright and that they are only backdrop / effects pointing onto the audience useful?

[peter]

Useful on TV, where the cameras can be adjusted to cope with the difference in brightness. Give them 5 years and they'll be moving into theatres as front light.

[paulears]

3 par 64's with cmy still work out a lot less than the price of a led. in fact, you could get nearly 30 64's for one led. lot more impressive too!

[TomLyall]

while you make a good point paul, I guess some would argue that your also going to have to cost in dimmers, cabling, and running costs such as lamps and replacing those gelstrings... then again I supose LEDs arnt indestructable, although you'd expect them to be for that price!!

 

Tom

[paulears]

just a thought - but the electronics to enable DMX may not be needed. I wonder how much the ultra-bright LED's actually are? How about a PAR64 shell with 3 mains cables? one for each colour.

[P. Funk]

64s = ~£50 ea = £150

cabling = ~£50

dimming = £250

 

= £450

 

hmm...

[TomLyall]

just a thought - but the electronics to enable DMX may not be needed. I wonder how much the ultra-bright LED's actually are? How about a PAR64 shell with 3 mains cables? one for each colour.

now theres an idea...

 

p funk, you appear to be missing the CMY colour scrollers that paul spec'ed....

 

I think it depends very much on the situation, I think for stage use it would be much better to go with par's either with a fixed gel or scroller, however the LEDs look promising for uses such as exhibitions and tv work... (cant seem to find a tv show right now that doesnt use the chroma banks... :wub: )

[Stu]

How about a PAR64 shell with 3 mains cables? one for each colour.

now theres an idea...

If you mean 3 individual mains cables to 3 individual lamps.... then it's already been done! CPC sell a Rainbow par which looks like a bog standard Par 64 with 3x HPL575s in it, so you can RGB mixing with it.

 

Not sure what the end effect looks like, but have a search on the CPC site and you'll find it.

 

Terralec might do it too. Not sure.

 

Stu

[Ike]

They look good but I get the impression they are not very bright and that they are only backdrop / effects pointing onto the audience useful?

OK I know this wasnt done with the PixelPars however I thought this was a good example of the use of LEDs: Lighting the outside of a hotel, just something to remember next time you think they aren't bright enough to do that wash you wanted. :wub: