Suzette Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Do we not have something .... the name of the show, which is fairly well-known by some bloke who wrote a lot of plays a few years ago - but whether that counts as the driveway or the parts I'm not sure - or maybe it really just counts as:"I want to build a Audi TT - what do I do????" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 It would be my suggestion to go to the director/whomever is in charge, and say to them "look, I'm really sorry, but I'm not sure how to do (the task) that you have given me. Please could we sit down and discuss how I should go about achieving this." (obviously, the wording may differ depending on whether you have not been taught at all, or if you just missed it / weren't paying attention...) Ordinarially, I'd suggest reading some of the work by Pilbrow and Reid, but given that you have been tasked with doing this in such a short amount of time... :blink:David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 To be honest, this is the way "I" do it but, I cant really but together a design proposal until I know what the director intends to do, how he intends to direct the show, is he following the script to the letter, what period is the director setting the production in ect. These are questions that really need to be answered in my opinion before a design can be put together and the same goes for your question in the Stage Design section of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody74 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 your question in the Stage Design section of the forum.Which is here; and also, you were tasked with seating (for a different production) here. What is going on? How have you been saddled with all the responsibility of so many disciplines, without any kind of support structure? -w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Much Ado About Nothing: 18 to 21 March 2009 As in 6 months away (according to the web site booking system)??? Sorry but you've given the impression time is really pressing, when all that is pressing is a date that doesn't actually matter. You've plenty of time, and as this is an advertised production, the obvious conclusion is that there will be indeed grades availale for the staging and lighting of it, as your college appear to offer National Diplomas in Musical Theatre, Dance and Performing Arts, along with Stage Management at National Certificate - which actually isn't one of the current titles. We have three current topics started by you which have us all scratching our heads - in one you are looking at seating, in response to something your teacher has explained, yet in the other two, you are being expected to do things outside of your current skill set - which just sounds very wrong. Could you explain exactly what is happening - If I get the chance, I'll merge all three topics, although I'm reluctant to as they are all really in their proper places - they just keep talking about each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 ...and, after scratching my head even more, I cant understand how the director can expect you to come up with a LX, Stage design in two days, does the director really understand whats involved in LX, Staging, Sound design? I would need to see rehearsals before I can even do a rough design and then I would need to see even more to get a nearly completed design, even then, things are more than likely to chance in the last week of rehearsals. This quote taken from Stage Topic because the director has asked me, lighting op, and sound design and op to all come up with ideas so he can pick the best ones Have your roles been given out yet? Why is the Sound Designer and Op. been asked to provide a Lighting Design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody74 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 EDIT: Beaten by ToshiBoy's own edit... does the director really understand whats involved in LX, Staging, Sound design?I don't think the director has a clue: because the director has asked me, lighting op, and sound design and op to all come up with ideas so he can pick the best ones..No ideas of his own is how I read that... -w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I would need to see rehearsals before I can even do a rough design and then I would need to see even more to get a nearly completed design, even then, things are more than likely to chance in the last week of rehearsals. Some times being able to 'throw something together' which is passable if not great can be a life saver. Like when the guy who's said he'll do lighting gets called away on business the day before the get-in (leaving behind a plan that consists of a few scribbles on the back of an envelope) and you get called in to help out. I fully agree that good lighting needs thorough planning and design but some times you don't have that luxury. Maybe that's the aim of this exercise or perhaps it's to encourage collaborative thinking. In general when your back's against the wall a wash in 103 straw and a wash in 203 quarter CT (blue) will cover most eventualities. If you've the time and resources add specials as required. Which seems to be pretty much tech__girl has already come up with. Leaf pattern break up gobos to denote outside is terribly cliched but it does work and needs must, as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Some times being able to 'throw something together' which is passable if not great can be a life saver. Like when the guy who's said he'll do lighting gets called away on business the day before the get-in (leaving behind a plan that consists of a few scribbles on the back of an envelope) and you get called in to help out. I fully agree that good lighting needs thorough planning and design but some times you don't have that luxury. Maybe that's the aim of this exercise or perhaps it's to encourage collaborative thinking. In general when your back's against the wall a wash in 103 straw and a wash in 203 quarter CT (blue) will cover most eventualities. If you've the time and resources add specials as required. Which seems to be pretty much tech__girl has already come up with. Leaf pattern break up gobos to denote outside is terribly cliched but it does work and needs must, as they say. 1. BUT the show is not until Mid March 2009 :P 2. It is a college production, Is this really a good way to be teaching student, put a bosh plan together and hope for the best. I DONT THINK SO!. At least not in the real world anyway. . If you've the time and resources add specials as required. If it's next March, you would have the time and since it is a learning environment, It should have the resources, this show is not until March 2009, I really cannot understand why it has to be done in 2 days, The director asks, give me ideas and I will choose which one to use, Does the director really want to choose a design this early on and stick with it, when I doubt, since its the start of term, has really gotten into rehearsals? This whole thing is really starting to confuse me :blink: :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I guess the only person who fully understands the Director's plan is said Director. I really cannot understand why it has to be done in 2 days Neither can I which is why I would guess it is some kind of game, either to get them used to working to tight timescales or simply to see how they think before you start teaching them the 'correct way of working'. Whatever the reason it's not worth getting :blink: stressed over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Coker Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Ok, here's an offer given that Salford is not too far away and I need to do something charitable - people have been very kind to me of late: I will come to your college and talk you and your colleagues and tutors through an approach to making a lighting design. Do ask your tutors to contact me. KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I'd take Ken up on that offer, if I were you. It could easily end up being the best move you've made all week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tech__girl Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 im confused....Anyway I got it done....it looks rubbish I might upload a pics so you can all laugh at it . I dont know why the director is in such a rush...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Moderation: I've closed this topic (and the others down) after information received. If anyone wishes to find out more - please PM me - but otherwise, the reason for all these posts has passed by and additions won't help the OP - sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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