Turbosound TXD

[Sirch Sound]

Hi guys, just a quick question.

 

What are your thoughts on the turbosound TXD cabs? I used a small stack of it for a gig a few days ago (4 subs and 4 tops) and was fairly impressed by it. However im not sure if I was impressed enough to invest in a rig. You can get 2 subs and 2 tops with the thomann digital amps for just under 3k from thomann, so any other reccomendations for that price range? Im looking for a pasive system, not powerd.

 

It would be very benificaial to me to get a TXD rig, due to a mate of mine having 4 stacks of it and the possibility of hiring in extra gear cheaply would make it very worthwile, plus him hireing off me. However if the system is crap then its something I can live without. I only used it for a few hours and whilst it was ok, it was also an outdoor event so I couldnt really make my mind up on it.

 

Your thoughts?

Rich

[dunk_1984]

Although being the "budget" range it is still certainly a usable rig and I would happily use it. Given it was for an appropriate application of course.

 

Certainly the ability to sub in/out easily and cheaply would be a favourable thing.

 

Second-hand Martin Blackline F12's and S18's would be a suitable alternative in both price and use.

[J Pearce]

I've used some of the baby 8inch TXD tops, and I think they're great.

Heard some other TXD in passing, but not properly listened to much of the bigger stuff.

[gnomatron]

Why not go and have a good listen to your mates rig? outdoors isn't really the best conditions to test a rig under, although there is something to be said for testing under adverse conditions...

[Sirch Sound]

Why not go and have a good listen to your mates rig? outdoors isn't really the best conditions to test a rig under, although there is something to be said for testing under adverse conditions...

 

Hence the reason im asking.

 

I would but the full rig is down in london for a few weeks and im looking to buy sooner than that. He recons for the price its absolutly awesom, although the tops may be a little harsh. However his rig is still fairly new, and I was wondering about anyone who has used this rig longterm aswell.

 

Rich

[audio]

What are your thoughts on the turbosound TXD cabs?

 

The theatre in my venue got re-equipped two years ago with TXD 151 tops and 115 subs and I take them out to one of our bars to do the odd band here and there. I run each sub off a crown macrotech 1200 in bridged mono while each top gets its own bridged C-audio R3001 amp, all run through a DBX260.

The system sounds sweet, requires very little EQ and with one sub and two tops a side will easily handle the bar (capacity around 600) although another sub per side would be nice to get the kick drum thumping as seems to be required by most live sound engineers these days.

 

In three years we've had to replace one failed crossover which burnt through the dampening foam in one of the cabs when it fired a capacitor clean off the circuit board and one driver which just gave up one day. The only thing I'd say is that the blue paint looks nice but is very easy to chip as the surface of the cabs seems to be quite soft, I keep meaning to re-paint ours one day soon.

 

I've used the cabs flown too for a while and was surprised by how narrow their vertical dispersion of the highs appeared compared to the 802s that we also use, this may be good or bad depending on your application...

 

HTH

[london sound]

We use 12 TXD12M wedges and are more than happy with them.

We often use them for FoH on small gigs as well.

 

 

 

 

Ian

[Shaggy]

I think they sound good, however I am not sure how good they are for loud music, having used them in a small venue (100ish people) for loud shouty bands it was not loud enough really. However I am not confident the rig was set up to get anywhere close to maximum volume.

[johndenim]

Sorry Rich no help from me I'm afraid but one quick question if I may.

 

I have only seen pictures on the net and they all show these cabs without front covers.

Are they supplied or available as extras?

 

John denim.

[dunk_1984]

I have only seen pictures on the net and they all show these cabs without front covers.

 

Heavy duty powder coated perforated steel mesh

 

From

 

ftp://ftp.turbosound.com/datasheets/txd121.pdf

[Matt Riley]

Hiya,

 

We've got a good few of these cabs - 10 txd 12m for mons, the 252 for drum fill and some 2x18 subs for another rig. They are reasonably well built, especially considering the price we paid. Ours are finished in black, and although they've been flightcased, they still need repainting after owning them for about a year. Also the 12m's grille doesn't react too well to people treading on it, and we've got a few dented ones from that. Apart from that though, they are good sounding boxes, although compared to the Martin or DnB we've got they don't sound necessarily harsher, just kind of 'lighter' though I can't really put my finger on it. Amps are RMX 5050 for the subs, and camco tecton 24.4/32.4 for the mons/DF.

 

Conclusion in my opinion... They're great for the price, easily Martin blackline quality I reckon, but there is a massive price jump between them and the proper pro stuff, and so it's unrealistic to expect the same kinda quality as a top of the line box.

 

M

[Sirch Sound]

Thanks for the replys, I think im going to go ahead with the system then. I havnt herd a bad comment about them so the positives are very strongly outweighing the neganives.

 

As for the covers, yes they come with metal grills. Most speakers are photographed by the creators to show the driver configs, even though it becomes a little confusing.

 

Thanks again

Rich

[johndenim]

Thanks for clearing that up guys! :unsure:

 

Although if I was a big hitter in the pro audio industry I would show the cabs maybe with a cover and without.

Even if just for aesthetic reasons.

 

John Denim.

 

Enjoy Rich!

[Sirch Sound]

Yer I guess, most companys do, I think its RCF that seem to use almost clear covers when photographing theres, I dont know if they have different covers made for photographing reasons or if its just the way they light the grilles but in my opinion its the best way of doing it.

 

Anyway, to avoid straying off topic I shal stop.

 

Rich

 

A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on.

 

Ok, last question about this gear. How easy is it to array the 12" tops? Has anyone done it before? I have 4 4m 100kg wind up stands that I use with a 1.5m bit of truss across a pair, then fly cabs from that. How easy would it be to array say 5 cabs in this fasion? Is it possible?

 

Rich

[Matt Riley]

I'm a bit confused about how you want to array them. If you're suggesting putting up 2 pairs of big frottos with a bit of trilite slung between them then it should be at least doable to physically get them up there, though obviously they're not exactly aspect when it comes to seamless arrayability.

 

In terms of doing a couple of 2 box clusters (bear in mind you've got 140 degrees of coverage a stack there, which is an awful lot) then you sadly can't get hold of a flying yoke like you could with PS10 or D&B C6 or Martin W3, but you could do what we've got at church which is a 3 box EM 121 cluster with custom (rated) T shaped flying frames with two wires for main support and one coming off the back of the T to angle the box, which could then clamp onto the truss with couplers. It wouldn't exactly be easy though.

 

I'm also absolutely bemused why you'd want to array 5 cabs? on one stack - maybe for the applications you're talking about where you need to do this sort of stuff, you'd find it cheaper just to hire in something like c4 or W3 which already has the flying gear with it and will be a lot less work?

 

M