Sirch Sound Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Hi guys I dont know if this has already been covered or not, however I did a search and couldnt find anything.What is the exact sound level in an outdoor public area? CheersRich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternewman Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Background noise level? Maximum allowed? I don't know the answer, but I know you will need a more specific question to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirch Sound Posted May 25, 2008 Author Share Posted May 25, 2008 The maximum level allowed really. I have a gig in a marquee tomorrow in a field in the middle of a housing estate and just wondering what the maximum level I can go to is. Its during the day so no night restrictions apply. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london sound Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Usually set by local authority (council), so no set level. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirch Sound Posted May 25, 2008 Author Share Posted May 25, 2008 Thanks, that put me on the right track. After rummerging around the councils website it is a standard of 65db 1m from the nearest noise sensitive premises. However this can be negotiated with the council, which is probably too late to do now. However its not upto me to organise it so I can just follow the guidelines. ThanksRich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 In a marquee in a field, in the middle of a housing estate. Well - at even background music levels, I'd expect the complaints to start around tea time, with the first calls to the police at about baby bed time, then another spate about 9-10. By this time, the police will have called environmental heath, who will magically appear and make you stop. As they can decide what is reasonable and what isn't, the number of complaints they receive is sufficient evidence for them to simply stop it - the police will be concerned about possible public order issues if the locals are less than older, middle class quiet residents. Presumably the organisers will have sorted this all out in advance. If the only person with a sound meter is the council, not a lot you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirch Sound Posted May 25, 2008 Author Share Posted May 25, 2008 In a marquee in a field, in the middle of a housing estate. Well - at even background music levels, I'd expect the complaints to start around tea time, with the first calls to the police at about baby bed time, then another spate about 9-10. By this time, the police will have called environmental heath, who will magically appear and make you stop. As they can decide what is reasonable and what isn't, the number of complaints they receive is sufficient evidence for them to simply stop it - the police will be concerned about possible public order issues if the locals are less than older, middle class quiet residents. Presumably the organisers will have sorted this all out in advance. If the only person with a sound meter is the council, not a lot you can do. Lucky for me it all finishes about 5pm so it shouldnt be too bad. And considering the event organisers rang me the other day and said right, "you have a generator behind the stage with 4 of those blue round sockets on" im not holding much hope for the sound regs to have been sorted. Il be taking my Sound meter with me, time will tell if I use it or not. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ83 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 <snip> However its not upto me to organise it so I can just follow the guidelines. </snip>This may well be true but if you want the gig to happen again in the future then keeping up good PR with the neighbours is a good idea (If it is not your responsibility there's no harm in asking/reminding the organisers have they informed the neighbours/police/parish council etc).You haven't said what your role is but if it's "the guy on the desk" then any complaints about too much noise could end up around your neck depending on how much support the organisers give you! I'm sure the last thing you want is an ASBO . Good Luck, I hope all goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirch Sound Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 Well everything went fine in the end. It turned out that most of the people in the housing estate were there anyway so it wasnt too much of a problem! After a quick walk around the perimiter of the event it turned out the music was only about 1db louder than the background noise anyway! Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingatall666 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 thats better then what happened today where I live. The pup next door had a 'music day',from 1pm(although they were making noise at 11am) till 10pm. The background noise is around 40dBA.The pup noise added to it came up to around 70dBA. no one got any letters or notes, saying there would be such noise. wouldn't have minded if the bands where better, fortunetly the music got good around 7.30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 After a quick walk around the perimiter of the event it turned out the music was only about 1db louder than the background noise anyway! Strangely enough, that doesn't mean that an EHO won't still say it's too loud - if the music can be heard as part of the background noise! Furthermore, their SLM will always be "more accurate" than your meter - even if you are holding some fancy B&K jobby in your hand! My usual approach is to say that I will work with the local authority to achieve any noise limit they are imposing. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirch Sound Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 After a quick walk around the perimiter of the event it turned out the music was only about 1db louder than the background noise anyway! Strangely enough, that doesn't mean that an EHO won't still say it's too loud - if the music can be heard as part of the background noise! Which would have been fine on a normal day, but the wind was absolutly mad, lifting marquees up against there pegs ect. Which was fine for anyone up wind, not a thing could be hurd, however a few hundered meters down wind and the music could still be herd, which would probably present a problem when it got later. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 And don’t forget that the police can confiscate the equipment if the event is not licensed. Davd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 The offence isn't noise it's nuisance. There is NO set level of noise that constitutes a nuisance. If a nuisance complaint is made and upheld by an EHO then they can insist on anything up to total cesation of the event. And they can confiscate equipment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderick Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 The background noise is around 40dBA.The pup noise added to it came up to around 70dBA. That is one noisy dog ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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