Help with a DJ battle set up "Pretty Please"

[Feed me AV]

Hi there.. been asked to do a DJ battle set up with two DJ's doing there shizzle against each other. One is using CDJs and a Pioneer DJM800 and the other is using two 1210s and a DJM600. How do you set it up so each dj can mix there music in to the others and have control of the others output with it all going though one sound system,

 

Diagrams welcome.

 

Cheers

 

Mickey.

[Shez]

A third DJ mixer with each side of the cross fader fed by each of their mixer outputs?

[fatfrog]

Well, I've done this before - we simply had the 2 djs wire up their gear as they would in any other setup and did the following.

 

Dj One.

 

Outputs from decks are fed into a djm600

 

Dj Two

 

Outputs from decks are fed into a second djm600.

 

Combining.

 

The outputs of both djm600's are then fed into a third djm600 which is connected to the pa.

 

Do you get my idea? - Lots of djm600's - All the more places for the dj's to make some red lights flash :)

 

Alan

 

Damn : Beaten too it...** laughs out loud **

[Feed me AV]

I get the third mixer option... just wondered if there was another way. Cheers anyway.

[MarkPAman]

If it's the same as the competition type battles I've done, then they don't need control of each others levels.

 

I just take the outputs of each desk (through DI boxes) into the PA & balance them so that they're at the same volume.

 

For monitors, each get one wedge with their own decks & one with the other's.

 

I have to say that when you get two DJs who are good at it it's much more entertaining than I expected it to be.

[niall]

If it's the same as the competition type battles I've done, then they don't need control of each others levels.

 

 

I suspect its so they can kill the other DJs music and mix in their own stuff on top.

[Feed me AV]

If it's the same as the competition type battles I've done, then they don't need control of each others levels.

 

 

I suspect its so they can kill the other DJs music and mix in their own stuff on top.

Nail on the head

[boatman]

If it's the same as the competition type battles I've done, then they don't need control of each others levels.

 

I suspect its so they can kill the other DJs music and mix in their own stuff on top.

 

Surely, if they can both kill the other's output there will be nothing but blessed silence. Maybe that's not such a bad idea. :)

[fatfrog]

MMMmmm - Beat match the same song as other dj is playing and invert phase...** laughs out loud ** - Silence...Beautiful Silence

[cfmonk]

You need to find out if they want to be Battle Style of if it is a DJ battle. Battle style simply refers to rotating the decks so that they are "short end on" to the DJ. If it is a DJ battle then it depends on the requirements of the DJs. Some of the stuff I do (not battles but lots of DJs) requires each DJ to have complete control of what is going into their monitor mix, the simpler stuff just requires that each has a monitor of the final output and each mixer is the same.

 

If you post more details then will be more than happy to post diagrams as this is actually an area I know something about so would be happy to be posting advice rather than asking for it!

 

Chris

[Thomas1987]

If it's the same as the competition type battles I've done, then they don't need control of each others levels.

 

I just take the outputs of each desk (through DI boxes) into the PA & balance them so that they're at the same volume.

 

For monitors, each get one wedge with their own decks & one with the other's.

 

I have to say that when you get two DJs who are good at it it's much more entertaining than I expected it to be.

 

Sorry to ask a stupid question, but why do you need the DI boxes between the DJ desks and the main mix desk? Can't you just take the input straight into a line-channel?

[djw1981]

See http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=27282

[johndenim]

Is it right OP that they intend to mix into each others tracks?

 

If they are sat close enough to each other then they can use just one dj style mixer DI'd to the main PA, and crossfade between themselves.

Or if they are using two decks each then a mixer with 4 inputs with a switchable crossfade would be another option.

 

John Denim.

[niall]

Surely, if they can both kill the other's output there will be nothing but blessed silence. Maybe that's not such a bad idea. :P

 

 

but if they only have a cross fader between their mixes that wouldn't happen :** laughs out loud **:

[MarkPAman]

[sorry to ask a stupid question, but why do you need the DI boxes between the DJ desks and the main mix desk? Can't you just take the input straight into a line-channel?

 

In my case the mixer was at the other end of a 50m multicore, so DI boxes were definitely needed.

 

 

Is it right OP that they intend to mix into each others tracks?

 

If they are sat close enough to each other then they can use just one dj style mixer DI'd to the main PA, and crossfade between themselves.

Or if they are using two decks each then a mixer with 4 inputs with a switchable crossfade would be another option.

 

John Denim.

 

This would not work with the ones I've done, though of course there may be more than one type ofDJ battle.

 

Each DJ takes it in turns to play about a 1 minute slot, which uses one deck for a backing/rhythm track, and the other for many very quickly cued vocal lines from other records - lines usually like "I am the best" & "you are sh1t" (that's a very mild example) and relevant hand signals are used!. The fast queuing is achieved by having tape stuck to the records. The DJs usually have an assistant to hand them the next record & catch the old one which usually gets thrown in the air as it's taken off.

 

After 4 or five pair of these one minute slots the winner is voted on. The best ones will actually select tracks as an answer to what the other has just played.

 

In order it make these very fast changes, most DJs provide their own mixer which they're familiar with.

 

In order to provide music during changeovers, a third pair of decks is usually used.