Hazer fluid ?

[BigYinUK]

I read somewhere, possibly not on this forum, that if you use the Le Maitre Neutron XS fluid in the Zoom Hydrahaze/Source Aquahaze/Stairville SD-300, you get a very good haze.

 

Can anyone verify that is the case ?

 

Also, where's the best place to go for the Neutron XS fluid ? I've seen it at 100ukp for 4 x 5L although ideally I'd like to buy a smaller volume to test.

[niclights]

Neutron uses a sugar based solution unlike traditional machines that use glycol.

 

At best I would be worried it would destroy the machine and at worst that it would be dangerous. Personally I wouldn't go there.

[Ike]

In my opinion it's very unlikely you would see a noticeable increase in the quality of the haze and there is a real chance you could cause a permanent reduction in the machines output from clogging up the heater block.

 

The neutron fluid is about three parts glycerol to one part distilled/deionised water, refined glycerol can be purchased cheaply from chemical suppliers so you could always have a go at making your own. I'm assuming you're not bothered about the warranty if you're already talking about using another manufacturer's fluid.

[BigYinUK]

This is only a query, I haven't bought any hazer yet but I'm just interested in your replies. Wherever it was I read the post, the poster said it worked really good, so I thought I'd try you guys to see if anyone had tried it as he/she said it turned a cheap hazer into a really effective device.

[niclights]

I think you would be best just buying the machine and using recommended fluid. It will probably be fine for your purpose.

 

It sounds a bit presumptious to already suggest the cheap hazer is ineffective. If you're thinking that then maybe you should invest more? As was said in your other thread the differences between cheap and expensive are about consistency and longevity of the machine. Neither will be improved by a different fluid and indeed probably made worse.

 

For a genuine difference in haze type you have a choice between water/glycol and mineral oil compressed air machines.

[BigYinUK]

...I think presumptuous may indeed be my middle name ;)

 

Seriously, we're trying a Zoom Hydrahaze (hired for 20ukp) on Saturday night. If you'd have said the Neutron fluid is the business, I might have tried some, as it is, we'll use the fluid supplied and see how it goes. As I say in my other thread we may decide to buy a more upmarket one as we will be using one regularly. See how it goes I guess.

 

Thanks for the comments though.

[niclights]

** laughs out loud **! I'm sure it will be fine. You might even never notice the differences between hazers. Some of us are perfectionists and notice things from a lighting perspective that probably noone else cares about. Also we might have to consider almost 24/7 reliability, ease of maintenance & cost, possible associated cleaning costs from residue and fast available service and support if things go wrong. Fluid consumption might be huge in professional theatres and will also be a cost/availability factor.

[timtheenchanteruk]

If your hiring the machie, I would only ever use the fluid supplied, then if it gets gunked up its not your fault, if you use another fluid, and it clogs the machine you will be liable for the claning/repair costs.

[Bryson]

Moderation: I've fixed the thread title, for the purposes of searching. It used to say: Hazer Fuels.

[pyromonkey]

just to clear up the fuel/fluid comments. I do know that the Antari range of Smoke fluid is called "Smoke Fuel" but it seems every other manufacturer calls it fluid! :) Geeky comment of the day....