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Hi,

 

We are having a major refit in college and looking for various types of equipment. I have seen in the past Vari-pitch Sony Mini-disc players. Can you still get them and where from. We want 2 of them.

 

Many thanks in advance

 

PS the players I saw were Sony, but also had a different name on them as well which illudes me atm.

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No wasn't that one, but that one will do fine! Thanks for the heads ups

 

All lovely and very useful when you read the specs but where on earth can you buy them????

 

Please anybody who might know post a link, I have searched all over!

 

Chip

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No idea where you would find the sony, I certainly couldn't see it anywhere, however I'd suggest looking at the good old TASCAM MD-350. I have had many of these units and used them in various scenarios and they have yet to fail me, they also offer pitch control.

 

Available for 350 - 400 quid, try www.thomann.de/uk they will probably be one of the cheaper online suppliers if your only after one, however if you are having a major refit, and you are a college, it is probably going to tender so just add it to the spec, any serious company should have no problem sourcing them.

 

Hope that helps,

 

Martin

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As far as I recall, Sony have discontinued their professional minidisc range in this country. At the time this happened ( a couple or three years ago?) the rumour was they would still be available in the USA where they'd penetrated the mass market more effectively than the format did here, don't know if this was / is the case.

 

if stock is still available on suppliers' shelves, I'd say go for the MDS E10 - very similar spec to the E12 apart from missing the balanced outputs and the networking capabilities. We asked ourselves "how far away from the mixer are we going to locate these units?" and answered "no more than 1.5m", which is fine for unbalanced lines, and saved quite a lot of money by buying the E10s at £500 each rather than the E12s at about £750 if I remember rightly.

 

for us they've proved to be robust and reliable, so I suppose might be worth seeking out on the second-hand market. We have moved on to SFX for most of our sound now for the increased flexibilty and ease of operation, but still keep the MD players as backup.

 

there are of course PC based systems available now at a much more wallet-friendly price than SFX - this might be a better option given the scarcity of MD players these days, although ou have to factor in the cost of a reasonable laptop, and there are debates about dedicated or general purpose machines.

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No idea where you would find the sony, I certainly couldn't see it anywhere, however I'd suggest looking at the good old TASCAM MD-350. I have had many of these units and used them in various scenarios and they have yet to fail me, they also offer pitch control.

 

Available for 350 - 400 quid, try www.thomann.de/uk they will probably be one of the cheaper online suppliers if your only after one, however if you are having a major refit, and you are a college, it is probably going to tender so just add it to the spec, any serious company should have no problem sourcing them.

 

Hope that helps,

 

Martin

 

 

We will be getting a pair of Mini-disc players anyhow. Have used Tascam players in the past and don't really like them, but if that is the only player with vari-pitach that is the one to get. How do everyone find them? I have heard bad reports about them wiping discs!? Any info on this?

 

Cheers

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As far as I recall, Sony have discontinued their professional minidisc range in this country. At the time this happened ( a couple or three years ago?) the rumour was they would still be available in the USA where ...
The reason they were dropped over here is the RoHS legislation. It would have cost too much to redesign for lead-free solder and specialised components.

 

Why am I not surprised that they are still available in the States?

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Portogram Radio Electrical Industries Ltd.

212 High Street , Barnet, EN5 5SZ

Tel: 020-8449-4183

can't find www sorry

 

Certainly used to be specialist converters of MD machines to varispeed for the ballroom dance scene. They used to replace the headphone volume control with a speed control pot.

 

In the UK MD was a failure as a walkman replacement, but entered the pro and broadcast industries, which were too small for people to bother with. They have all but been replaced by CDRs and HD recorders.

 

Have you searched all the disco shops?

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Haven't tried disco shops yet, usually last port-of-call for me for this type of thing. Portogram was the company I was thinking of. Will try and give them a ring and see if they can do something for me. Thanks for that.............

 

OK, Website is Portogram linky (hope I am allowed to post this here to try and help any other people who may need vari-pitch players). They do all sorts of Vari-pitch stuff so if anyone is interested go there.

 

 

Moderation: And why ever not? We'd only moan if you were being sneaky about advertising yourself! ;)

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I seem to remember that the Sony MDS JE-530 had pitch control. I have seen some Sony players which have been adapted, and the headphone control becomes the pitch control.

 

OT a bit, a worn out jog dial on a 520 is quite easy to swap with that from an old Sony CD player, which is easier to source at car boots than MD players!

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How do everyone find them? I have heard bad reports about them wiping discs!? Any info on this?

 

Cheers

 

As I said, use them a lot and have never had any real problems. The chassis mount XLRs are a bit prone to breaking, however, this should pose a problem for an install.

 

I believe the wiping disk issue could be down to the fact that the menu layout isn't wonderfully clear and it is perfectly possible to erase disk, when you intend to only erase a track, once you get your head round the menu system it's fine, although there may be another issue I have yet to come across.

 

HTH

Martin

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As far as I am aware, the only pro MD players available new in the UK are the MD350 and MD-CD1, both from Tascam.

 

The other manufacturers all seem to have dropped out of the market - probably from lack of sales.

 

Its a bit of a shame as MD is still a great, portable format in the theatre industry but its future would seem limited.

 

Steve

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Well, I think you can still buy a Califone 33 1/3 RPM vinyl record player with vari-pitch. But would you want one?

 

When we do an event where we receive 10 audio sources each night, from the acts, the MDs are always the poorest sounding and the most likely to fail. You did not say whether you have the option of promoting better sources from your clientele, but the best player can't play a dead MD.

 

It's true that now that anyone can make an audio CD, there are more failures than when they were all from pro studios.

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CD is a no-go area for me in Theatre, along with many of my colleagues who I work with in college or in the pro industry. MD is still at the moment the most popular choice with directors/sound engineers etc. as first port-of-call for the show discs. I don't think hard-drive is the way to go for us at the moment, or any computer based media system.
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