dominicgross Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Heres the plan: We got a house band playing (pros) and we're gonna mike up th drum kit with a D112 (kick), SM57 (snare) SM57 (hi hats) and a load of shure beta drum mikes. - no probs,?Im gonna a DI the keyboard, bass and gonna mike up the electric guitar cab with a C300. The problem I have is that there is another pupils band playing: they will share the drum kit, but are using their own amps (bass, lead and keyboard) I will DI the keyboard and Bass but I have mike issues with the lead guitar. Ideally I would mike the cab but I'm only gonna have a SM58 availible. Would this be okay for the guitar cab (theres no -10pad?)The amp is a mashall AVT and it has a 'emulated DI out' but I can't seem to find out if it is balanced or not: any advice? (before people say we're going overboard, the venue is HUGE (600 people, massive hight) If anyone wants to give me some advice/corrections on my mike placement???.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london sound Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Hi A 58 is good general mic and should be fine for guitar.Can you not move the mic from one cab to another? For a 500 seater venue do you really need to close mic the drum kit? I would not bother with a mic on the hi/hat especially if you are not using a gate on the snare. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicgross Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share Posted January 25, 2004 thanks for that: I would rather not have to move the C3000 as it is used constantly for most numbers. We have a 4 behringer tube composer's which I normally use for strait compression and limiting: apparently they can be used as gates: is it worth doing? With the drums I have the choice of close miking or sticking up 2 414's as overheads. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london sound Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Hi My micing method for drum kits in most situations (depending on monitor needs) are two overheads, snare and kick, if you have 414's (very good for overheads) then this method should work well and give you a nice big drum sound. I only usually close mic when various drums are needed in the monitors. Make sure the overheads are at the same height and as low as you can get away with (dependent on drummers sticks!!!).The C3000 seems a bit to good for a guitar cab, a Beta 57 or SM57, I feel woud be better suited as it has a sight lift in the high mid area.I assume you will be doing monitors from from FoH if so then be very careful if using compressors on any thing that will appear in the monitors as this could cause you big trouble. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicgross Posted January 26, 2004 Author Share Posted January 26, 2004 My last thing: Vocal wise we need a lead, 2 backings. For mikes we have a beta87, beta58 and a beta57 (we've rented the whole lot to 'try out'. We've also got 2 SM58's. Which ones should I use: I think 87 as the lead. Would the B57 and a B58 match up okay as backing vocals? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andystone Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 We have a support page on our site all about miking tips and tricks at http://stagetec.co.uk/php/index.php?sectio...&contentid=1205 Might help, dunno, think it was pinched from Sennheiser (with their permission, of course) hence all the recommendations to use Sennheiser mics! Andy Stone Stagetec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 One trick I saw a lot of visiting BE's use was to remove the popshield from a 58 when you want a 57, Obviously this is only any good if you can guarantee that the target isn't going to move (eg. a guitar cab) rather than a singer but it does alow you to get that little bit closer, and they swore by it. personally if I was trying to balance a pair of backing singers I would want a pair of mics, but if you have two band members who also sing in a backing fashion then pick the mic that sounds best on their voice, I've heard good things about the B57 for vocals, you might want to try all four out on the lead singer first to see what sounds best, if you have the option and the time. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samrennie Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 did a similar event, just told everyone that they were using the same amps, or not play. solves a whole host of problems, and as I was event orgainisng it as well, if they didn't like it then they had to deal with it. There is a point where you begin to compromise the reliability of the sound if u chnage everything every two seconds!! Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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