Fixure Libs and ATC Pages moving with Show File

[TomSnell]

This is my first post after a year or so of dropping by so apologies if I'm not up on etiquette etc.

 

Just about to programme and tour another show either with a hired 500 series or discing it from venue to venue.

 

I've plotted plenty of shows with wigglies and written plenty of fixture.libs and useful ATC pages for those libraries, it might well be me being thick but whenever I load the show onto another 500 series running the same version software etc the full fixture library doesn't copy across and also the ATC pages never import with it.

 

I get the fixture library and ATC pages onto the original programming desk by copying and replacing the files in DOS (as recommended by the Strand website as I'm sure plenty of you have seen).

 

I have tried searching BlueRoom archive for advice (because I know there is LOADS of old Strand advice) but to no avail. I think mainly I don't understand how the OS references that original Fixture.lib because I think it archives the old one once you replace it in DOS.

 

But as I say I might just be being thick and it's really easy!

 

Any advice?

 

Thanks

 

Tom

[matt_beal]

I'm not completely sure about this as I have never had to use this function but as no one else has posted...

 

I think in the archive screen where you have the list of exactly what you want to load and save (subs effects etc), you just need to tick ATC pages, as they don't seem to be included when you simply select whole show. I would imagine that if you didn't do this when you originally saved the show though it may not work.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Matt

[Rob Halliday]

Tom,

 

ATC Pages not loading properly is a bug that's never been fixed, and now never will be fixed. The console just never loads all of the ATCPage information back, however much you try to tick the ATCPages option in the archive screen. The only workaround is to manually copy the atcpage.lib file in DOS, as you've been doing.

 

The fixture library should load properly, though - or, to be accurate, the fixtures should load properly, though the 'header' text at the top of the fixture.lib file may not be loaded correctly.

 

Sometimes you won't see this in a console if you go to the fixture library file display immediately after loading a show, but try going more > notes display > load file > fixture library again and you should see it. In any case, the fixtures should load properly and so the show run 'as programmed'.

 

(The only exception to this would be if you tried loading a showfile from a recent software version which supports attribute numbers >100 into a console running an old software version which doesn't, when it might get a bit confused. This change happened somewhere in the 2.8 version range).

 

Rob.

[TomSnell]

Thanks Rob,

 

At least I now know and I don't sit down every time to start updating and get wound up when the ATC hasn't imported.

 

I know what you mean about the fixture library because even if it doesn't look entirely like the file you wrote all the fixtures you're actually using are there and working correctly.

 

It is a shame that work on 500 series software I'm guessing will no longer happen. In a way for all it's quirks and sometimes backward way of working it's very stable and does follow a certain logic that if you can think the same way actually is very pleasing a lot of the time.

 

Thanks again.

 

Tom