junglejim Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 I have a small effect light (slow rotating mirror ball effect) uses a 12v 50w bulb.what would happen if I was to put a 12v 100w bulb in it? Jim.
Pete Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Alot would depend on the transformer powering the LAMP. Pete
JimWebber Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 A lot would also depend on how long the effect took to overheat and start a fire... And in the case of plastic components, to melt and give off poisonous fumes... Jim
Tomo Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 99.9% of the time, the lamp wattage chosen is the brightest that the fixture can cope with. It's fairly obvious why - if the manufacturer could put a brighter lamp in, they would because then the fixture is brighter and they can sell it for a higher price or compete better with similar products. So don't go higher. If nothing else, this kind of change negates the CE mark, invalidates the warranty and may invalidate your insurance.
Pete Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Sorry,I might of just read small 12v lamp 50w and in my head it became a birdie. Perhaps if we knew what the actual unit was?
LDODD Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 China me thinks.... Some kind of Botex unit like this? http://www.thomann.de/gb/eurolite_single_ball.htm I have never seen them rated at less than say 100w though, so I would get a spec or manual against the manufacturers part code and double check... edited due to happy "enter" finger....
junglejim Posted March 27, 2007 Author Posted March 27, 2007 thanks for comments... its an active color star light (I no nothing about it , from ebay!!)does exactly what I want (if only bit brighter!).. produces slow turning white mirror ball type scatter...all metal construction, very small only 20cm long diameter of a CD.transformer, 5rpm motor/mirror, A1220 12v 50w bulb, single lens. No fan. http://www.iveygreen.com/ebay/starlight.jpg dont think heat would be problem(?)... I could easily add a fan.my main concern... would it damage the transformer putting a 100w in it???? J.
Ynot Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 my main concern... would it damage the transformer putting a 100w in it????If the transformer were not rated for the extra 50W, then YES, it could seriously damage the transformer, the fixture and possibly your home when it decides to overheat, melt and set fire to things!!!!
LDODD Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 agree with Ynot.... If thats how it was manufactured and rated, then do not modify. It has been "designed" that way for a reason. Bad things may happen!
JimWebber Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 ...all metal construction, very small only 20cm long diameter of a CD.transformer, 5rpm motor/mirror, A1220 12v 50w bulb, single lens. No fan. dont think heat would be problem(?)... I could easily add a fan.my main concern... would it damage the transformer putting a 100w in it???? J. All Metal construction? What about the lamp-holder?What about the insulation on the cables?What about the insulation on the transformer... I could go on... Every one has said "Don't do it" - They have said this for a reason... Jim EDIT- Although to be fair, the lamp-holder is probably mainly ceramic, but I bet it has plastic/paxolin (sp) components?
musht Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 Apart from warnings about fitting meltdown and transformer smoking optically might not work too well either. 100W lamp has a much larger filament, moonflower type effects rely on very small filament, bigger filament might lose the sharp focus.
junglejim Posted March 27, 2007 Author Posted March 27, 2007 ok I get the point will put the screwdriver away!!!!! cheers,J.
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