my first pyro use help!

[lightjocky]

hi there

we are having a fashion show in our school in march and I am looking for some pyro ideas for the beginning of the show

 

I have seen many effects such as flash's and big bangs we can't have flames as there to dangerous but is there anything on the market?

something to shock everyone but to look wicked

I am really going ing to this blind as the only time I used pyros was as Bridgewater hall for the end of our concert's we had mushrooms and flash bangs?

the idea is to have something in the positions on the side of our catwalk entrance

 

if any one wants the stage/catwalk design I can email it but I don't know how to add t to a post

 

thanks

lightjocky

[Brian]

we are having a fashion show ... I am looking for some pyro ideas for the beginning of the show

At the beginning? Seems like a bad idea unless you can get rid of the smoke.

 

I am really going ing to this blind as the only time I used pyros was as Bridgewater hall for the end of our concert's we had mushrooms and flash bangs?

Your profile says you are 14. Did the team at the Bridgewater really let you use pyro?

 

 

Roll on the EU pyro directive.

[GridGirl]

The LeMaitre website has videos of all their pyros being let off. I've found it very useful. The usual caveats apply about being over 18, making sure you have a safe storage area, appropriate risk assessments etc etc etc apply....especially as Brian says, your profile says you are 14....

[jon_sealey]

The LeMaitre website has videos of all their pyros being let off. I've found it very useful. The usual caveats apply about being over 18, making sure you have a safe storage area, appropriate risk assessments etc etc etc apply....especially as Brian says, your profile says you are 14....

 

 

the example risk assesement from le maitre really helped me. its a good example to build up your own RA and details alot of things you should be doing when handling/detonating them

 

 

 

 

Edit: Spelling

[Jivemaster]

The term "flash bangs" that you use is normally a vernacular term for a mlitary stun grenade. If this is what you mean then you are NOT doing stage pyro. If this in not what you mean then please be a LOT more accurate with your wording. The wrong fx in the wrong place is plain incompetence and could ruin the effect of the whole show, or worse.....

 

All pyros make smoke so anything that follows will be in billowing smoke.

 

Have a really good look at NON pyro fx especially really huge silk flame lights..

 

 

Look at putting hanging bowl silk flame lights to light the room and two huge ones at the runway entrance/exit. You will still need open white along the runway to show the product to its best, which is actually what the show is about.

 

If you really are 14 you are not lawfully allowed to operate or handle pyro, and are uninsurable. There is always a risk that possessing pyros underage will be mis-interpreted by the bill as you cannot be covered by any legal reason to have them, you could even see the inside of a police station.

[Ynot]

hi there

we are having a fashion show in our school in march and I am looking for some pyro ideas for the beginning of the show

I'm going to jump on the bandwagon here (no surprise there, then!! :))

As Brian says, if you are indeed only 14, then you MUST stop what you're doing.

You are NOT legally allowed to have anything to do with pyro except stand/sit and watch, saying "Ooooh, that was pretty!".

 

IF the school is intent on having pyro, I would recommend that THEY (read the teacher(s) in charge of the event) talk to a local theatre (pro or maybe am-dram) to ask if there is anyone experienced and competent to select, set up and operate the effects. It will NOT be satisfactory for any Tom, Dick or Harry to just buy, plug in and fire this stuff, so don't expect the science lab tech to do it (unless they ARE experienced).

 

On a side note, I'm not really sure that pyro at a fashion event is appropriate anyway - especially as the 'traditional' layout for catwalks would likely put the audience pretty close (ie TOO close) to any effect......

[zonino]

the example risk assesement from le maitre really helped me. its a good example to build up your own RA and details alot of things you should be doing when handling/detonating them

 

Detonating is not the correct word, the correct word is FIRING

[lightjocky]

hy there just to clarify

yes I am 14 15 in a few weeks !!

 

I am not under any circumstances touching the pyros I have a technician to come in and do them

however I do need to pick my effect hense the post

 

last year I did design the pyro system at bwater hall not op them ! as stated this is illegal

 

after speaking to skyhigh today I have chosen 7sec gerbs that will create a large sparkler effect and am putting them 2 on each side.

and yes 2.5 metres away from audiene as stated by skyhigh today

 

thanks

 

lightjocky

[scotty]

Hi LJ

 

I have been sucessfully designing pyro shows since I was 16 (not firing them until 18 of course) so don't be deterred by those jumping the gun!

 

I use skyhigh for all my pyro needs and has to be said, their effects are good.

 

Im not sure if your technician has ordered from them yet, but if not, and if you are intent on using the effects at the beginnng of the show then look into their smokeless range. They burn gold, like a sparkler and are a lot less violent (There isn't the loud whooshing sound when they fire).

 

I can provide some pictures for you of the pyros being used agains the full smoke versions if you would like to make a comparison.

 

They create nearly no smoke, just a mild haze, so are ideal if you need to keep the atmosphere clear, and the haze maked the lights look great at the same time.

 

Keep it up! ;)

 

Scotty

[Ynot]

The Manufacture and Storage of Explosives Regulations 2005

 

Employment of young persons

7. No person who manufactures or stores explosives shall permit a person between the age of 16 years and 18 years to work in that manufacture or storage except under appropriate supervision

Whilst this does deal with manufacture & storage, I believe that it does also apply to operation thereof, but I can't lay my hands on that legislation at the moment...

And appropriate supervision in my book is experienced and qualified adult.

 

Sorry. But there it is.

Please don't encourage under-age activities on a public forum.

 

 

Moderation: Edited to remove a quote from and reference to a previous post which has now been deleted.

[pritch]

...although to follow on from Ynot's post, this shouldn't stop you having artistic input.

 

I don't see any harm in a young person making suggestions for what they'd like to see used to someone older and more experienced who can judge on whether the choice is suitable or not; in fact, I think it should be encouraged.

 

At the end of the day, you have to bear in mind that as an under 18, there are things that legally can't be done. Whilst you can have a say in the artistic side, the ultimate decision on what to buy, where to put them and if/when to fire (and the associated pressing of the fire button) must be made by someone older.

[Bobbsy]

Moderation: The original poster has stated clearly that he only wants help with choosing the right pyro for the artistic effect they are after and that they will be bringing in an qualified, over 18, technician to actually fire the pyro. As such, I think this thread can run and doesn't need to degenerate into another debate about what young persons can do.

 

That said, the BR cannot accept posts encouraging under 18s to break the law and that sort of post will not be permitted.

 

Bob

[Ike]

I'm not sure if your technician has ordered from them yet, but if not, and if you are intent on using the effects at the beginning of the show then look into their smokeless range. They burn gold, like a sparkler and are a lot less violent (There isn't the loud whooshing sound when they fire).

Great advice there, if I remember correctly they only come in 15 second versions but don't know if thats a problem. You can get them in either silver and gold.

 

Don't forget you will need a very high ceiling as well:http://www.skyhighfx.com/images/M1110_copy.jpg

[Tregilibob]

The Manufacture and Storage of Explosives Regulations 2005

 

Employment of young persons

7. No person who manufactures or stores explosives shall permit a person between the age of 16 years and 18 years to work in that manufacture or storage except under appropriate

 

It may just be my morning mind but this makes it sound as if you can work in explosives if you are under 16 but not again until over 18.

 

It's probably just me.

[Brian]

It may just be my morning mind but this makes it sound as if you can work in explosives if you are under 16 but not again until over 18.

 

It's probably just me.

Persons under 16 are 'Children', not 'Young Persons' and so can't be employed anywhere, let alone working with explosives, except in very defined circumstances (and not in Theatres).