lifeisacabaret Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Saw this brilliant gig last night....fabulous sound system too. Anyone know what the desk and PA were? Cheers. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim b Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Saw this brilliant gig last night....fabulous sound system too. Anyone know what the desk and PA were? Cheers. J I believe ESS are providing PA for the tour: turbo aspect with a Heritage 1000 out front...specific details would need to come from the guys on the tour. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seano Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I believe ESS are providing PA for the tourEdwin Shirley Staging, surely not. :) Who are the 'other' ESS? (Or did you mean SSE?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london sound Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Could be! ESS PA Hire. Address. Unit 14, Bleak Hill Way. Hermitage Lane Industrial Estate. Mansfield. Notts. NG18 5EZ. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigglesuk Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I thought that the Empire had it's own permanent rig installed in it? Plus a console, though tours tend to swap that out for their console. I could be wrong in saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim b Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Edwin Shirley Staging, surely not. smile.gif Who are the 'other' ESS? (Or did you mean SSE?) Entertainment Sound Specialists from Mansfield. Same dudes as Ian mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_ Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hi, just got back from London after watching The Feeling on Saturday night. Amazing gig, definitely a big fan now. We were right at the top, great view and the sound was good, even all the way up there. It looked like they were using in house speakers as some of them were stacked and flown in pretty tricky locations - I think they were EAWs, the desk was a Midas of some sort... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Appleby Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I can't see a band like the feeling going out with ESS's old turbo gear. Every time I've ever heard ESS's gear, it's always been shocking! Derby Uni May Ball springs to mind.... Just my 2p! Could be! ESS PA Hire. Address. Unit 14, Bleak Hill Way. Hermitage Lane Industrial Estate. Mansfield. Notts. NG18 5EZ. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryface Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 OK here goes. The Feeling are out with ESS, FoH speaker system is Turbosound Aspect system, powered by MC2 amps with XTA controllers Midas Heritage out front. At Shepherds Bush they will have used the in House EAW KF-850 system (there's no flying and its too expensive to move the system out for one gig). They have a Midas XL3 out front though it is possible that ESS plumbed in their own desk. Hope that clears all up Furry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Riley Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I can't see a band like the feeling going out with ESS's old turbo gear. Every time I've ever heard ESS's gear, it's always been shocking! Derby Uni May Ball springs to mind....Turbo aspect is only a couple of years old and apparently sounds rather good, even though it hasn't perhaps achieved the market share that Turbo would have liked. I guess that they used their old flash/flood for derby uni's event, so a completely different (and much more tired) system there? Rgds, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryface Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Bear in mind its not just down to the gear, it takes talent (band), a room and an engineer to ruin the sound aswell. Though that said they do run their Flood with Crown MA amps - which has never been a great combination. Much better with QSC PowerLights, Labs or MC2s. And I understand that Brit Row are out with Primal Scream using their Aspect later this month - that should be a good gig with good gear, good engineer and half way decent band in halfway decent rooms. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Beech Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Dan, I think the items mentioned by furry face in the last post had alot to do with the poor (or worse) sound for the live part of the may ball. It was mainly floodlight gear, only with the 2x18 subs not the normal flood subs. The system appeared to be setup for the "dance" music which played throughout the latter part of the evening. IIRC that was from say 2am until 6am. From what I can remember the system didn't sound bad for that. For the live material I must admit it was Poor, Being able to make out the band (just) with kick drum (not a pleasant one at that) fetching your teeth out at 60feet. With Digital crossovers and the like being part of most setups nowadays (certainly the setup in question) I cannot see how a change of preset at 2am would have hurt too much. The Aspect stuff is a very nice sounding rig, I agree fully with Matts comments about it not having as larger share in the market as they would like (and probably should). Can't comment on the way ESS use theirs, I can confirm that it IS THIS ESS from Mansfield thats providing the Gear for the show in question. I somehow think there will be a bit more to it than just throwing some boxes up and turning it on. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Appleby Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Yeah sorry, my mistake - it wasn't aspect at derby, it was the floodlight. Blond moment there. Not heard any aspect stuff so I cant really comment... but never been a huge turbo fan. Not enough vocal clarity for me! Listen to Rob he knows what he's on about. Something like that anyway! :P Bear in mind its not just down to the gear, it takes talent (band), a room and an engineer to ruin the sound aswell. Yes I realise this. Meh! But the sound at Derby was particularly bad. Just loud and not alot else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryface Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Yeah sorry, my mistake - it wasn't aspect at derby, it was the floodlight. Blond moment there. Not heard any aspect stuff so I cant really comment... but never been a huge turbo fan. Not enough vocal clarity for me! If you don't think there's enough vocal clarity you really need to get and listen to an Aspect rig. I'm lucky enough to have used one and one thing it does not have an issue with is vocal clarity. Remember it has a single 10" Hi-mid driver (like nothing you've seen before, btw) which runs from 405Hz upto 5K rolling gently off to meet the dome tweeters (not harsh comp drivers minds) which come in at 5K99. The driver also has a sensitivity of 114dB,one hundred and fourteen dB at one watt/one metre. Running this with MC2 amps and new XTA DP448s will redefine your idea of vocal clarity. Imagine the vast majority of the vocal range, and certainly the part that contains most of the information, on a single paper driver. No crossover in the middle of it. No compression driver honk. No passive crossover sucking out the dynamics and energy. Just make sure you've got good talent on stage and well matched microphones. Still I'm ranting now. But if you get chance go and have a listen to the Feeling, Primal Scream or even Rancid who are out with it at the moment, though I think the Scream will be the best gig overall. All done, now as its too early for this. Anyway don't take this as a dig, no offence meant Edit: Quote fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastie Kid Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Anyone liking Turbos Aspect system will love Funktion One's Resolution System, which im sure you've all heard or heard of. its an amazing system and now comes with F221 bass bins!! 2x21" drivers, serious beef!! Check them out, currently on tour with The Zutons, or as of friday DJ Shadow, both have dates at Brixton Academy, but im unsure of any other dates. System courtesy of Audio Plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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