lifeisacabaret Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 No longer listed on the website.....sources say that the F1222 has been discontinued, while the B1 is marked for discontinuing in the future. Hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryface Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 No longer listed on the website.....sources say that the F1222 has been discontinued, while the B1 is marked for discontinuing in the future. Hmm ??????????? Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeisacabaret Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Just seems odd that such a well regarded and excellent product would be discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryface Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 One would assume that a) It has be come uneconomic to produce and sales figures have slipped below an acceptable level or a component has been discontinued by a supplier and b) They have replacement products about to be launched or c) There is duplication in their range and they are trying to streamline it. Perhaps they feel that between the B2, J-Sub, Q-Sub, C4-Sub, C7-Sub and C-12 Sub that they have enough different sub woofers to cover most eventualities. Manufacturing is a strange world. Just because something is well regarded doesn't mean it is economic to manufacture or won't be replaced by something newer. Give D&B their dues the C series is knocking on for a good 15yrs old now, so discontinuing old product isn't that suprising. Furry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.d Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I suppose we can only speculate. Perhaps its another couple of products taking a tumble due to ROHS and WEEE, and they cant produce a compliant product at the same price. I know its getting late in the day for such things, but perhaps the last non-compliant ones were still sitting around in a warehouse, and rather than kill off sales by advertising them as being discontinued, maybe its only happening now theyve cleared out the stock. I can see how this might happen, discontinued stock is inevitably sold off at less than the usual going price. Furryface's suggestions also sound good to me. HTH Rob :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryface Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Rob makes a really good point there about RoHS and WEEE. This has proved to be the death knell of quite alot of products by many different manufacturers over the past 18 months. Given the paperwork involved and the time/cost resourcing limited quantities of components its often quicker, cheaper and less grief just to start again and design a new product rather than redesign the wheel as it were. Well pointed out, I'd forgotten about that angle. Between us I think we've covered the most logical angles :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Why not give John Taylor or Beth at D&B a ring and find out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Riley Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I have to say that I can't see anything that really conflicts with the F1222, as it is their only 'theatre' cab, and most of the rest of their range are very much rock and roll cabs, so I can't help but think that either the luvvies have got to stick with the wider dispersion Q series elements (Q7?), or there's a new toy coming out! WRT conflict in the range, does anyone else think that Q series treads all over the C7 and C4 range, looking at the type of applications which it is used in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgoodnamesaretaken Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Having visited their factory once when selling them some semiconductors I recall being told that the F1222 was not a profitable cabinet for them due to the cost of manufacture ..... this was perhaps 4 years ago as to why its just been discontinued I have no idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrannar_dbsound Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I know that you still can special order it. It´s just to exspensive to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeisacabaret Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 The E9 has got alot of theatre usage over the years, although this is now discontinued too. Whats the equivalent? (not the Q7)...? (is the E9 available for special order?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryface Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 The E9 has got alot of theatre usage over the years, although this is now discontinued too. Whats the equivalent? (not the Q7)...? (is the E9 available for special order?) Not wishing to be officious but why not contact D&B, they are nice, helpful people with a phone and email who I'm sure can give you far more direct and accurate information than any of us. d&b audiotechnik GB Locks Mill, Brewery Lane Nailsworth, Stroud GL6 OJQ Contact: Stephen Hogg, Emma Adamou Phone: +44-1453-835884 Fax: +44-1453-834193 Email: info.gb@dbaudio.com This way you get the gospel rather than opinion, guesses and rumour. Just a thoughtFurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 right on the button, furry face.however I can add a bit of personal gospel: our new theatre had E9s and E18s specced (spec written about 5 years ago). when it came to delivery time, d&b supplied Ci 90s as the best replacement (I think better than E9, but that's a personal thing) with Q sub. these were considered best for our venue, wchich is quite wide, with the back row of the audience relatively close to the stage (or PA line - no more than 10 metres), so not a venue that would make best use of line array technology. the point being that there is a selction of equipment available that will suit different venues, so perhaps there's no direct equivalent. at the time (about 18 months ago) d&b said they would build E9s for us if we really wanted them, but at a price....so I guess the answer is yes, available to special order. I suppose it might be worth it if you have E9s already and want to expand, but not if you are starting from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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