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Wavelab (monitoring whilst recording)


Simon MFR

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Ive been using Wavelab for about four years for various things, however when recording straight into the laptop via the Delta 4/4, it seems that I am unable to monitor the source externally. Does the program allow for this or am I just being dumb? (You'd have thought that monitoring using software for this amount of time would be the least of my worries...) :D

 

Define: Idiot; a person of subnormal intelligence .

 

Dunnit. Thanx :D

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Just a thought Simon. I have no idea how to monitor using Wavelab or how difficult your problem was, however in the future, hypotheticaly should someone searching for information on Wavelab or Delta 4/4 spot your thread and might be frustrated that you don't explain how you Dunnit.

 

Just a thought (and posting my thoughts seems a more attractive use of time than tidying my desk).

 

James

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A very fair comment.

 

If live monitoring is required during recording, clicking the mic shaped icon on the toolbar (extreme right corner in below image) will allow the signal to be returned to your output channels so you dont have to sit in silence during the mix-down. However, there is a degree of latency in between signal output and audio output (about 200ms) which can be a swine if youre reliant on the signal meter, but once you have the level set around zero db's, this 200ms difference is negotiable.

 

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM02/Content/Steinberg/PR/WaveLab-4-large.jpg

 

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Another possible cause of this is if you're soundcard isn't fully duplex - this means that the card can record and playback material at the same time. Most should be able to do this, though it may be a problem with some on board 'sound cards' on some mother boards.

 

 

 

It's partly in German because Steinberg who produce Wavelab (and Cubase) are a German Company. No idea what bender_05 is all about though, other than the boring answer that that is the name of the music file that's being edited at the time of the screen shot.

 

I love Wavelab, best of all the audio wave editors.

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It's partly in German because Steinberg who produce Wavelab (and Cubase) are a German Company.

 

I'd guess at that not really being the reason. The english version of Cubase is all in english. Being a German company they will undoubtedly produce a German language version of all their software, but what I was asking was why there's also a lot of english in the screenshot. If it is the German version then surely it should all be German?

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The English version of Wavelab (at least mine at any rate) is all in English. I assume that screenshot is of the German version, though you'ld think the German version would probably be all in German aswell - but these crazy continentals have the strange habit of knowing more than one language almost as a matter of course (rather than the British approach of speaking loudly so johnny foreigner can understand, seeing as they all speak English behind our backs anyway.)
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I simply did a quick Google images search for Wavelab to highlight the "live input" button, but the laptop with Wavelab on it is audio only, so no point doing a screen shot there...

 

Many people I have spoken to detest Wavelab, but are happy to use Cubase...it is a case of personal preference. Many good things have I heard about Audition, but I can do everything I need to here...why change!

 

I still however, have a fraction of a second of latency when monitoring through Wavelab, and the same appears on Cubase when monitoring...is it because its a USB outboard soundcard, or are there internal settings that can be changed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My mother can sing "how much is that doggy in the window" in German, not that its any use here of course... :(

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I still however, have a fraction of a second of latency when monitoring through Wavelab, and the same appears on Cubase when monitoring...is it because its a USB outboard soundcard, or are there internal settings that can be changed?

It's because you are going into and out of Windows, and this adds latency. Are you using ASIO drivers, as these almost always have less latency than WDM drivers.

 

The normal way to monitor is through a mixer, rather than going into and out of Windows.

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if you go to the sound on sound website here and do a search for latency, you'll soon find it is a fact of recording life that latency is an issue - some people spend ridiculous amounts of time and money attempting to reduce it and you'll see their attempts detailed quite well - others monitor externally - I certainly do - in fact pretty well the only thing my mixer gets used for. The snag with monitoring via the machine is that latency often changes as you fiddle - on my music system, the latency stays the same - but I get an audible glitch if I suddenly give the processor extra work, like use a cpu unfriendly reverb, or virtual instrument - the gltches don't get recorded, but mute or graunch the output. USB2 devices generally have pretty good drivers, but there will be a short delay whatever you do. It just depends if it is livable with.
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It's partly in German because Steinberg who produce Wavelab (and Cubase) are a German Company.

 

While Wavelab is sold by a German company, the guy that writes the software is actually French. That's why Wavelab is different in style to Steinberg's in house software like Cubase.

 

Cheers

 

James.

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