MarkPAman Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Harmonicas are often termed 'blues harps' -Or, less politely, Gob Iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesperrett Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Sounds gd, but you cant grasp a 565 between your harp and hands as well. But im open to all ideas so will have a shot with it. Thinking about it, I ought to check that it wasn't a 545 rather than a 565. 545's seem to be more commonly used for harmonica. Cheers James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiochains Posted October 10, 2006 Author Share Posted October 10, 2006 Thinking about it, I ought to check that it wasn't a 545 rather than a 565. 545's seem to be more commonly used for harmonica. Post it when if you find out, that would be really helpful. :) The Audex looks intresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I've seen people do this with a 565 - the mesh sphere goes in between the 1st finger and thumb, allowing the rest of the hand to do the cup behind. It is rather awkward. The main advantage is simply that the 565 (and 545) had a low & high impedance output, so they worked well into a conventional combo style amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesperrett Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Thinking about it, I ought to check that it wasn't a 545 rather than a 565. 545's seem to be more commonly used for harmonica. Post it when if you find out, that would be really helpful. :D OK - having just checked at a gig tonight - the harmonica player in my wife's band uses a short 545 with a switch in the part that screws into the stand, not a 565. He plays through a modern Traynor amp and gets a really great dirty blues sound. Cheers James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiochains Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Ideal, the only thing to add is that the harmonica player doesnt want to go through an amp, but straight into the PA. is there any advantages in using an amp rather than just the PA and foldback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 It's the guitarist thing - going into an amp gives the player access to effects - usually reverb and a touch of valve distortion - that kind of slightly distorted sound fits in quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesperrett Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Ideal, the only thing to add is that the harmonica player doesnt want to go through an amp, but straight into the PA. is there any advantages in using an amp rather than just the PA and foldback? The original question was about a harmonic mic for a blues band - if you want that typical Little Walter blues sound then a decent, preferably valve, amp is essential. If you want a cleaner sound, more like Stevie Wonder for example, then straight through the PA should work fine. Cheers James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon MFR Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Couldnt you just get a kebab holder and be done? Then use your standard vox mic which would free up yer hands to allow for picking, obscenities, and pint holding. http://www.elderly.com/images/accessories/ACC/HM24_frnt.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 but then you couldn't play blues, could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiochains Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Yer my original problem was that the harp player didnt have full use of his hands and couldnt move around, and having a holder would stupid as hell, as he is a singer and doesnt play anyting else. someone mentioned that by using an amp you avoid feedback problems, how does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Feedback isn't generally a problem through PA or an amp - the gain isn't hugely high - the output from the mic is pretty potent, and the mic is slapped hard against the actual sound source, and protected to some degree by the hands. Bit like not worrying about feedback from the kick drum mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesperrett Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 someone mentioned that by using an amp you avoid feedback problems, how does that work? I could envisage a situation where the vocal mic would be set up so that its level was just below the level that would give feedback. If the vocalist then played harmonica with his hands cupped around the mic this would change the directional response of the mic from cardioid to omni directional which would almost certainly result in feedback. Of course, in this situation the harmonica would probably be too loud and the sound engineer should pull the level down but the engineer would have to be on the ball to do this for each harmonica solo. A separate harmonic mic would certainly help here but I don't think that using an amp would have any advantages feedback wise. Cheers James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 The Thomann list just arrived - featured is http://images1.thomann.de/pics/prod/192640.jpgrather coincidentally. details here. link fixed - oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiochains Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 It dont look bad for a Superlux copy. And its quite cheap. I think I will buy one. its not a shure but its a start. CHEERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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