Smiley Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I was just wondering if anyone has used these particular fixtures (SGM Colorlab 250) or seen them in use. The pdf. manual makes quite impressive reading I must say. Plenty of colours, fast strobe & the ability to wash with a frost lens. I am aware they are older type fixtures & as such are a little bulky but I could live with that. The lamp they use is an M33 halogen capsule as used on the Opti Solar 250 range. The manual states that they output 5000 lux @ 5 metres. I would like to use them for small staged school plays etc. They are cheap to buy & lamps can be had for less than a £1 when shopping around. I would appreiciate any feedback as never seeing them before. I also read somewhere they produce a red that still has Martin etc. scratching their heads. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P. Funk Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Yeah we have some of these... The light output considering the lamp they take is actually fairly impressive - and they do pretty much what they say on the box - theyre colour changers. Give yourself a few minutes to familiarise yourself with the way the interface works though - one channel controls "colour pallette mode" or something, and you have to change that channel in order to get split colours and other fun things. One thing I will say is that the gobo wheel is a bit crap. It consists of square, triangle, small dot, and one or two other very uninspiring things. The frost is alright, but its not variable - either frost in or frost out. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 Fortunately the gobo's are removable & as such could be replaced with something a little more interesting. Thanks for your positive reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinballdreamer Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 These units are rock solid!As reliable as they come.Simple to fix and great light output.The UV is just as good as the Red and all the other colours.I worked at Evolution Nightclub in Leeds, UK for a couple of years.46 of these units were dotted around the club and are still going strong after 10 years. A couple of things I've learned about them! 1) if they don't respond and the lamp is on standby (glowing very dimly). Try pushing all the IC's back into their sockets with your pinky. This has always solved the problem for me! 2) if the lamp wont light, undo the 4 small allen bolts on the lower portion of the rear plate. This will allow you to check the condition of the lamp power leads and there spade connectors. These sometimes become severly corroded and blackened if it's been running hot! Simply replace with a fresh spade connector and clean the terminal. 3) The 3 filters at the front of the machine are prone to movement failure after a long life. They are secured to the fat motor spindle by the clamping action of a large spring. If the motor is spinning but the filter holder is stationery, apply some WD40 to the spring and push it toward the filter holder using an old flat bladed screw driver. This usually renews the clamping effect on the filter body and restores normal operation! Thats about it! These 3 tips have fixed many a wayward Colorlab! Incidently these tips will also work on the Excellent Moving Mirror fixture - SGM VictoryII 250 - which is the same base unit with a Pan/Tilt mirror added. It's Just as relliable as it's little sister and even more imppresive! I do have one problem though! Have 4 Colorlab's that won't respond at all and I'm not an electronics expert! Can anyone advise me, thinking it might be the transformer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Have 4 Colorlab's that won't respond at all and I'm not an electronics expert! Can anyone advise me, thinking it might be the transformer? This can be the PSU or the Logic PCB as if this in not talking to the rest of the unit then it will look like it is not doing anything, as on your tips, check the ICs on the PCB and all the cables these are the normal faults, otherwise looks like it might be time for a new PSU, still available very quickly often next day as I tend to keep stock. Oh I should have mentioned we are the SGM distributors in the UK. Hope this is of some help Ben Lightfactor Service Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee weathers Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I have used sgm victorys and coloulabs for years (the power boards are the same and the pcb's and very similar) the only common fault I have had with these apart from the ones mentioned above is when the power board blows.. basically its the mosfets that go on the power board, you will know if it is this problem as it will blow both the two 5amp power fuses straight away... Apart from this they are great bits of kit and mega reliable (I would expect nothing less from sgm) plus the lamps (m33's) are dirt cheap.. also thanks to Lightfactors ben for posting, but not so much thanks to him for not replying to my email regarding SGM gallilieo IV tilt motor - I need one!!!! Lee weathers head of technichalquest nightclubwakefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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