MarcT Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Hi All, Anyone know if its only Thomas who produce scroller PAR64 cans, or are there other makes available? Cheers,Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickwoolley Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Hi Marc. Stage Electrics make the Encore range of Parcans. They are cheap, but if you aren't going to move them much they are fine, I have some at school which are used day in and day out. HTH Nick EDIT: Actually, re reading your post above, I'm not sure if my answer is exactly what you want....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcT Posted April 13, 2006 Author Share Posted April 13, 2006 If you put a scroller on a traditional parcan, the extra weight on the front will eventually cause the lantern to droop no matter how tight you do up the yoke.To combat this, Thomas make a "Colour Changer" parcan which is specifically designed for scrollers - see here. What I want to know is if anyone else makes a (dare I say it - cheaper) equivalent? Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Steve Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 I too would like to know if there are any other (cheaper) versions of Thomas' colour changer can. I've had the droops a few times, and have recently got round it by using a spare safety round the 4th foot of the colour frame holder and up to the bar to "pull" it up. Not ideal at all :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulmcewan Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Try using short nose cans it has always worked for me in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 short nose cans are much hotter at the gel position - mine melted very quickly on saturated colour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulmcewan Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Try using short nose cans it has always worked for me in the past.Sorry should have added that a peice of heat sheild behind the unit is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 If you're really poor, can you just modify "normal" pars with a couple of bolts and a strip of steel? Are you any use with a hacksaw and a drill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Or buy some ex hire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJones Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 couldnt you weigh the scroller, and simply add that amount of weight to the back of the lantern to combat the droopiness? hope this helps Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete LD Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I added the arms to my cans myself when I got sick of useing saftys to do it! they cost under a tenner for the kit to do it and im sure you could bodge it on to a non thomas par?HTHpete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody74 Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 couldnt you weigh the scroller, and simply add that amount of weight to the back of the lantern to combat the droopiness? Close; since it's a cantilevered load from the point of rotation (the yoke), you would have to add more than the weight of the scroller. I don't have my rigging tables handy, but it can't be too much more. I have never seen a modified can with steel strip and bolts, but that's a great idea. In the past, I have taken some wire from the nose of the can and tied it off to the pipe the PAR mounted on. You just have to remember it's there when you take it down <_< -w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNVS2 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Try getting hold of the teatro can. They have a different locking mechanism on the yoke, that consists of a cup, and a kind of jaw, that binds into it when tightened. LSD were churning out a similar kind of can at one stage, before they were bought out, many years ago.Little known fact: Short nose cans are not reccommended for 1K lamps,c/o james thomas engineering literature. Suggest fitting a frame of heat protective clear filter behind the scroller. Lee do it, as does Rosco, and GAM, numbers escape me at the moment, as does my swatch book... Good luck. Take a look at LED technology for a scroller replacement, although I have not found a parcan equivalent of any use, myself, yet, that doesen't meet financial benefits.still too expensive, and uncapable of producing natural colors. (US trained!, and make a point of spelling it that way!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcT Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 I added the arms to my cans myself when I got sick of useing saftys to do it! they cost under a tenner for the kit to do it and im sure you could bodge it on to a non thomas par?HTHpete Interesting... Where did you get this kit to do the conversion? Most of the cans are Thomas anyway, so no bodging onto other makes required! Thanks all for the suggestions. Regards,Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug kelly Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 The TMB Pro Can has a very similar lock off to the Theatro/ LSD par cans if it is done up tight you can't focus the can with your foot while up the truss.They are pretty good with scrollers. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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