Whiteout Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hello, I have two questions, both related to the use of fog effects in school productions... 1. In the school musical this year we're planning to use a fogger to create atmosphere and tho emphasise a specific part of the show. I'm aware that a risk assessment needs to be done for this, but was told that the chemicals used in the exact fog liquid need to be taken into account. Does anyone know where I might find detailed chemical data sheets on common fog liquids so that this info can be inclulded in the RA? 2. The local primary school also wants to borrow (free of charge) my fog kit for an easter service to be held in a church, and it's clear that a RA has not even been considered - the school in question rarely does technical work and thus no-one seems to realise that an RA should be conducted. Am I likely to be held responsible if any health or insurance issues arise? Thanks for any replies, Tom (mods: please move this to H+S forum if it's more appropriate there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Your fluid supplier will be able to provide the relevant MSDS for the fluid. Note that it is essential you only use the manufacturers recommended fluid. All machines/fluids that I am aware of pose no known health risks. Water/glycol based can cause dryness of throat or eyes in heavy concentration due to the water stealing properties of glycol. Risks might be more related to the actual machine rather than the effect. Water/glycol machines get very hot near the nozzle. The fluid itself should not be drunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Risks might be more related to the actual machine rather than the effect. Water/glycol machines get very hot near the nozzle. The fluid itself should not be drunk! Perhaps not too much of a problem in a theatrical environment, but there's always the issue of not generating so much smoke so that visibility is impaired and fire exit signs are obscured.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC FX Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Does anyone know where I might find detailed chemical data sheets on common fog liquids so that this info can be inclulded in the RA? Niclights is right as of about five years ago all manufacturers of Smoke Machines, Foggers etc.. had to undergo a Health & Safety assement of their smoke fluids, due largely to the complaints associated with Cracked Oils Hazers, so they should all have Certifications that you can use in your Risk Assesment. I know Le Maitre have PDF documents that you can download off their website, if you were using them I presume your going to get a machine in for this job, so all I can say is that if they don't conform to H & S Regs then don't buy/rent it Am I likely to be held responsible if any health or insurance issues arise? Absolutely, if your the one that has Purchased/Rented the machine and are the operator, YOU are the one liable You put it in the Air, you take the Blame!! If you want any info on good, safe smoke Machines, Hazers, Foggers PM me and I'll send you some links, just let me know what your trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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