amillar Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Hi, Do any of you folk know where I could source some medium or flood beam angle raylight reflectors suitable for Par64s? Happy to consider second hand as well as new but all I can find is the narrow spot variety these days. Thanks,Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 New units are still listed as being made by Thomas in Narrow, Medium and Wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amillar Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 New units are still listed as being made by Thomas in Narrow, Medium and Wide.Brian - Thanks just found them on the Thomas site (after a bit of a search). Hopefully I can get someone to supply them now :) Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJones Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 are you after cp62's ? or am I thinking of the wrong thing? they are on the thomnan site Cheers AndyJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Andy, not PAR 64 bubbles, but raylight reflectors. Where you put a cheaper, lower wattage, often higher lamp life lamp into a reflector and then into a can. If you'd have read the OP, you'd know... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amillar Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Andy, not PAR 64 bubbles, but raylight reflectors. Where you put a cheaper, lower wattage, often higher lamp life lamp into a reflector and then into a can. Yep, raylight reflectors - also much lighter than bubbles ... strange they are not as popular these days? Anyone know the reason? Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Uneven light, burn out gell, hotspots, I've got loads and they are great for the right thing, wonderfuly lightweight, rig them anywhere, great punchy beam - if that is what you area after... I dont' find I get a huge increase in life with A1/244s over CP88s though... James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJones Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Never heard of them, but now intrigued.... I shall do some digging and find out more. sorry for the mix up. cheers AndyJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtastic3 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Raylight pars are great for open white fan outs from the stage especially with the narrower 'mirror-like' ray reflector. I only ever use raylights for this reason in my rig (8 x 500W raylight par64's) and use my CP62's as my main stage lighting for bands. They are very light in weight compared to the ones with sealed bubbles but this also means more risk of blowing the bulb if the parcan is knocked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amillar Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 New units are still listed as being made by Thomas in Narrow, Medium and Wide. Well, yes they are listed on the Thomas website but they do not make them anymore :o Anyone have any ideas? - I have some medium ones already in my rig (the dimpled type rather than the smooth finish) which I would really like some more of. Thanks,Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 As far as I've ever been able to tell the reflector on all raylights is the same; the beam angle is just determined by how far forwards the lampholder sits. Maybe a DIY solution. My other thought would be a bit of frost in with the gel which would also sort out the bright spots in the beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amillar Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 My other thought would be a bit of frost in with the gel which would also sort out the bright spots in the beam.Brian, Thanks, a good suggestion - I will certainly give this a try. Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Brian. All of my medium reflectors have an undulated dimpled surface. All of my narrow reflectors have a smooth surface. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtastic3 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 As far as I've ever been able to tell the reflector on all raylights is the same; the beam angle is just determined by how far forwards the lampholder sits. The reflectors are all the same, it's what kind of finish inside them that counts. The narrower reflector has a mirror like smooth surface so the light is a more concentrated beam because of the tight reflection given off. A 'medium' reflector has a pebble like surface and effectively softens the light bounced from it as its hitting many small faccettes. I think that the lamps themselves all sit equally inside any type of reflector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Ferguson Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I think it is worth remembering that the raylight reflector was designed to be an alternative to Aircraft Landing Lamps, and typically used an A1/244 short life (50 hour) projector lamp. It was never designed to be an alternative to standard par lamps. If you are using a reflector and lamp in a par fitting you must ensure that there is a mesh of about 3mm fitted to protect against glass fragments if there is a lamp failure. The standard mesh used for Cp60/61 62 or similar is too large for use with these reflectors. If in doubt look at the specifications of Thomas Par cans; the S spec is designed for sealed beam lights, the R spec for use with raylight reflectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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