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Sennheiser EW300 G3 beltpack as wireless guitar transmitter? Can an EW300 G3 beltpack be used to create a wireless guitar system?

#1 User is offline   Dan Gruner 

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:23 PM

Hi All,

I'm going to ask what is most likely an obvious question; however just in case I am missing something here! ;)

Have an event coming up in which I require a couple of wireless guitar systems. Now, I am aware that Sennheiser do a dedicated system in the Evolution series. However, as I have plenty of the "standard" EW300 G3 beltpacks which I use with lav/headset mics; I was hoping these can be used with the appropriate cable, to create a wireless guitar system? If not, would it be possible to just rent a couple of "guitar" beltpacks and use them with my existing EW300 G3 receivers (as they are all racked up with RF distro etc. The receivers do not need to feed guitar amplifiers, only the snake direct.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:40 PM

Hi Dan

With the SK300 beltpack TX, you just need a TS jack to 3.5mm connector, to use with a guitar.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 10:13 PM

As Tony says, Sennheiser's CI1 Instrument cable will do the job nicely.

I now make sure the mute switch is either disabled or taped over as I've found this feature all little too technical for some guitarists. Not a lot you can do once they go on stage and have turned it off even when you said don't touch it!

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 10:19 PM

Hi Dan, long time no see.

This image may help with the pinout:

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As Tony says SK300 is the same transmitter whether you buy an instrument or a presentation kit.
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Posted 23 February 2014 - 11:46 AM

It probably goes without saying, but be sure to check the Sensitivity on the pack when plugging in an instrument for the first time. The level they present can vary widely and it's a lot easier to overload/distort a pack compared to a DI box or amp input. Also, if you are going direct from the receiver into an instrument amp you may well need to tweak the AF output of the receiver to suit.

The G3 packs also offer a "cable simulation" option which supposedly models the effect of a long guitar lead. This might be a useful feature for electric guitarists but I doubt it'll be an issue for acoustic instruments.

If you don't fancy soldering up some minijacks, I've got a fair handful of the Sennheiser instrument cables that I'd be willing to sell - drop me a PM if you're interested. (We had to order a bunch of systems in a hurry, and could only find stock of the instrument sets, so we've ended up with lots of surplus instrument leads)

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 12:35 PM

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As Tony says, Sennheiser's CI1 Instrument cable will do the job nicely.

I now make sure the mute switch is either disabled or taped over as I've found this feature all little too technical for some guitarists. Not a lot you can do once they go on stage and have turned it off even when you said don't touch it!


The G3 series belt packs have an option in the pack settings to change the function of the mute switch, including disabling it entirely.
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Posted 23 February 2014 - 06:29 PM

Many thanks for everyone's help. I shall make up the cables and test the system prior to the gig!

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:00 PM

Do take note of what James says though. It's the RING you need for line level. Using the Tip sends +nVolts up the guitar and this can cause issues and noise, particularly when adjusting volume controls.
I was actually speaking to James about it the other day, may even have been the day of your OP.
When you make these cables up remember that different guitars have different places for their jack socket. For this reason you will need to make both straight and right angled versions if you are to get along with your musicians.

For example, a Strat has a recessed socket on the front so requires a straight jack, where as a Les Paul has its socket on the end, and as such a right angle jack is usually more suitable here.

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