Ynot Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just been pointed at this month's L & S I, where on page 100, a rather bold statement has appeared, causing a couple of people I now to have a bit of a flat panic!! http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/Ynot_01/IMG_2248_zpseqcohvrp.jpg Now, without starting into the whole 3 pin vs 5 pin discussion/argument again, what I do find is that this is a rather inflammatory statement for the industry mag to be making...And of course, whilst there may be some who'd LIKE it to be illegal, it most certainly is NOT!!! I've dropped the LSI editor a quick mail suggesting an addendum to clarify might be worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 If I spent my time correcting LS&I I'd get nothing else done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 While 3 pin connectors contravene the standard, the standard itself has no standing in US Code or UK Statute Law so there is no Law to contravene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Would RJ45s also be 'illegal' too? The only connector that used to be in the spec was the 5 pin. Wayne Howell should really know better - being CEO of Artistic Licence and the guy who invented art-net! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I seem to recall RJ45s are in the standard, together with with a pin out for cat5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 This is hillarious; who would like some popcorn to watch the ensuing fight? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazz Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Inflammatory, incorrect, and pointless. LSI should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunray Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 This wasn't the April issue was it? Just been pointed at this month's L & S I, where on page 100, a rather bold statement has appeared, causing a couple of people I now to have a bit of a flat panic!! http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/Ynot_01/IMG_2248_zpseqcohvrp.jpg Now, without starting into the whole 3 pin vs 5 pin discussion/argument again, what I do find is that this is a rather inflammatory statement for the industry mag to be making...And of course, whilst there may be some who'd LIKE it to be illegal, it most certainly is NOT!!! I've dropped the LSI editor a quick mail suggesting an addendum to clarify might be worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 This wasn't the April issue was it?Nope - as in the OP, it's this month's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhole Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 The word illegal is often used in computing, such as illegal command / illegal operation - it just means against the rules of the current context. Even chess uses the term for moves which are not allowed - but I don't think you'll end up in jail for being bad at chess. Would RJ45s also be 'illegal' too? The only connector that used to be in the spec was the 5 pin. The spec says 5 pin must be used, unless the physical size of the XLR connector prohibits its use. As 3 pin connectors are identical in size, that means it's not acceptable. RJ45 however is allowed as it's smaller (not sure where you'd stand with EtherCON, but I think that's just delibritely picking holes in the spec! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddSocks Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Wayne Howell should really know better - being CEO of Artistic Licence and the guy who invented art-net! This is funny as Artistic Licence also sell product with 3pin XLR connectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrV Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Even chess uses the term for moves which are not allowed - but I don't think you'll end up in jail for being bad at chess. Garry Kasparov might take a different view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyld Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Yesterday being dated 5/12 across the pond led to my Facebook being filled with various DMX related posts, including some pretty militant views about the use of 3 pin. The posters were not just some random lampies, but actually pretty influential people in the US production tech scene. I'd not be at all surprised if some states didn't make using 3 pin for DMX a capital offence, so strong was the sentiment. Don't even mention Cat 5 cable or RJ45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Yesterday being dated 5/12 across the pond led to my Facebook being filled with various DMX related posts, including some pretty militant views about the use of 3 pin. The posters were not just some random lampies, but actually pretty influential people in the US production tech scene. I'd not be at all surprised if some states didn't make using 3 pin for DMX a capital offence, so strong was the sentiment. Don't even mention Cat 5 cable or RJ45. CAT5 /5e/6 is much better than audio XLR for DMX transmission! Edward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I find this quite surprising, in my experience 3 pin DMX is widely used in the UK events industry. I don't do all that much theatre stuff, or any global touring productions or anything like that so that might be different. Maybe it is just the medium budget range events I tend to work in, but a lot of fixtures provide both connection as standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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