Hi guys ,


Just want to know if any of you have used the Soundlab G250K.

http://www.technokit.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=G205KB

Noe before I get shot down , Yes I know its a Very cheap Chinese DJ type radio mic.

Im not expecting it to be build especially well or perform any where near as good as your Senns or shure products.

But im considering supplying a bar chain with a number of these units .

Its for karaoke type competition thats running for 4 weeks

They will be using them for this period then they wont get used again for another 12 months or more.

Before its suggested , Renting or hiring mics in is NOT an option they want to use.

I know they are nothing special and proberly wont sound "amazing" But im going to retail
them at about £53.99 each inc VAT.

Has anyone heard or used any ??


Thanks

Say you sell the chain 30 of these. What happens when 18 fail and the rest dont work at a range above 4 feet, None of them sound too great, and 4 get stolen? Who gets the stick? You!

I've never heard them, the might be fine, they might be a more than useable budget solution for them and may perform flawlessly or as close as matters for that application, and I hope they are. But I trust you're prepared for. "our radio mic isn't working and its kareoke night, what are you going to do about it" when they're 150 miles away and its 6pm.

If you get in touch with sennheiser they should be able to do you a good deal if you want lots, on their freeport range. Providing you are not putting more than 4 per venue. Why is hiring not an option. Could you not hire them for 1/4 the price you pay for the term, you can make the remainder of the money back over the next 12 months by hiring them out to other clients. £30 per day for a set of 4 wouldn't take that long to make the money back. You can even give the original client a discount the second year.

It's just a thought.

Looks identical to the set we bought from cpc, think we paid around £50 for a hand held mic (but no mic clip) , body pack,lavelier mic and headset mic. Biggest problem is the handling noise,range is very good,haven't had any problems with interference,just as well as there's no squelch control,and the battery's a bit of a tight fit. We only bought them for a one off show were sound quality wasn't an issue,but they worked surprisingly well,even surviving getting thrown on the floor.

Hi Madhippy ,

Your comments are very usefull , there is a CPC rep on this forum isnt there ?? Maybe he can tell me if the CPC units are an OEM by the same manafacturer.

Rob raises some interesting points , But , There is simply NO budget for hiring at lets say £30 a day when they can purchase units for as little as £50.00
and if they go stolen I cant see how id get the blame for that ??

cheers for your advice though Rob
I think ill end up buying one just to "RoadTest" it .

But if anyone has got any more opinions Please do share them


Matt

Not used/heard these personally, so can't comment directly on the sound quality.

But with the higher end of freq response only being 12khz, and the low end being 80hz, I doubt you will get reasonable sound from them.
Believe it or not there are some pro karaoke singers out there, ie entering competitions as a line of work.
You may get a few of these people not too happy.
Handling noise will be massive as well.

Do the venues HAVE to have radio mics?
I certainly would not hand a radio hand held to a bladdered punter, they tend to wander off into the audience, in front of the speakers, causing rf problems and inevitable feedback.
You can pick up an sm58 now for almost nothing, a good deal here.
John Denim.

No, you misunderstand.

Hire them to the chain for 1/4 of the purchase price for the duration of the hire (the 4 weeks etc). This is ridiculously cheap but they should be happy. So if the unit costs £80, hire each unit to them for £20 for the duration of the hire.

Then after this 4 weeks is up you may have several months before they are required again. Put them into your hire stock where you can hire them out at a reasonable or a cheap price such as £30 a say for a set of 4. I can't think of anyone else that will hire them this cheaply. The client is happy as they've got the mics cheaper.


Rob

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-SOUNDLAB-HANDHEL...id=p3286.c0.m14

£37 on ebay!!

The model appears to be PV-616

I presume they will only be used "one per venue" as it doesnt look like they do different frequencies

Personally I can recommend the Gemini UX16 Radio Mics, they seem to be sold for approx £90 (£80 on ebay...), but theres a decent profit in that price (I can vouch for that) Also if buying in quantity, there is ALWAYS room for improvement, and Gemini are a good company when it comes to talking bulk orders. They have a nice sound to them and they have 16 inter changeable frequencies to avoid any clashes (from memory, I believe you can use 7 of them together without any problems - gemini did supply us a list of the relavant frequencies in the past for a big order we had)

From a business point of view, to sell the more expensive mics, its good for a bar to have a microphone for general use, perhaps suggest they could host Quiz nights (could be an added on sale, quiz companies online charge £7.50 to supply the questions each week)

one thing you could offer is a "buy back" offer, guarantee to give them say £25 per unit buy-back option, we all know full-well they wont take you up on this as its more hassle than its worth, but it helps to make it look like you are on their side

one other, totally to one side. The website youve posted, theres no way in hell they have 738 in stock and by looking at other products, they seem to just make up the stock numbers. 806 of a single DVD karaoke disc, 314 turntable cases (imagine the space), 427 mirrorballs, 436 mini strobes, the list goes on hehe

I have to agree with Rob!

The Sennheiser freeports may cost you around £80 a piece direct from sennheiser, that's only £13 more than the Soundlabs with a brand name on them. You get the excellent support of Sennheiser UK on the other end of a phone, and the knowledge that you are able to hire them to other clients as well.

I daresay you could charge this large client £40 for the duration, that's still less than the soundlabs overall and only £10 per unit per week. All you then have to re-couperate is the loss of maybe 2 or so and the other half of the purchase cost.... Then hire them back to them next year and voila you could easily double or even more your money despite losing a few.

Please don't take this as a rubbishing of your post, but could you show me a drunk karaoke singer who can achieve fundamental frequencies (ie. not harmonics) as low as 80hz or as high as 12khz? Most vocal range sits very comfortably in-between these frequencies, the shure sm58 is quoted as being 50hz-15khz, how can you guess how that would sound from the frequency range? (Usable frequency range of a 58 is more like 100hz to 12khz to my ears, but anyway I digress....)

In response to the OP, I have neither used nor heard the mic in question, but if I read your post correctly you want to sell the chain these mics, not rent to them. The point that people seem to be dancing around is that if you value your customer, and want repeat business from them, you need to work with them to provide a stable platform of quality equipment with good after sales service (when not if things break down)

So does this mic fit the bill?

Hi Guys,

Well... If I take my CPC hat off for a moment I have to stand up here and say I have used a few of these they are a budget mic and if like me you had a situation that called for them (ie hires where you doubt the equipment will survive/return). The sound is... different and lacks any warmth or real quality... however for very little money they do work and I never had any problems with the units I had. The build is very lightweight and all plastic. For a little extra the Stageline TXS-100 is a good upgrade offering better build and audio.

Feel free to PM/Email me about deals on qty's of radio mics

I have never used the stageline mics mentioned above, but a friend bought a few of the UHF lav ones - which are a little more expensive. He was pleasantly surprised...