Had a bit of an accident at a gig I was doing the sound for this weekend.I was using a pair of Nexo PS15's with a pair of LS1200's.It was an outside gig and in an effort to make the sound fuller I decided to stand the LS1200's on their ends and stack the PS15 on top coupling the cabinets.Unfortunately I failed to realise the stage the speakers were on was sloping slightly forward and due to this,the movement of the musicians on stage and bass vibrations one of my PS15's fell off the LS1200 face first on to, lucky for me, the soft soggy grass below.It seems none the worse for the experience but I was wondering what sort of problems should I look out for after a fall of this type?

Hmm, We'll moisture damage is your worst danger, I'd suggest you leave it in a nice warm place for a few days to remove any moisture (eg hotpress). And then have a look under the grill if you want. But it should be fine

Secondly, Buy ratchet straps or distance poles or something...If that had landed on some punter you'd know all about it I can assure you.

Ending on a happy note, Hopefully it all works out ok,

Alan

Generally when you knock a speaker like that over, the box survives pretty well, with only scratches. You're probs most likely to knock the magnet off the back of the woofer in my limited experience. Often this just diminishes the bass response considerably, while the speaker still looks alright from the outside. While it's possible to mend them, I generally play it safe and pop a new driver in it.

M

check for dead people where it landed!

Luckily for me, the punters were a good 2 metres from the PA so no worries there.

The Nexo boxes are good, they're not indestructible but very well made nonetheless. One of ours at school moved and fell off it's pedastal (a good 15-20 feet high) onto a (usually) hard wooden floor. Smashed straight through the floorboards, and turned a pretty hefty joist into splinters. The speaker had hardly a scratch on it, and the sound wasn't really affected either.

I don't think the magnets coming off the back of the bass drivers is an issue with the Nexos either. The driver caskets seem very solid indeed and I expect you'd just end up taking the driver right out of it's place before you pull the magnet off.

What can happen with the Nexos is the weight of the HF driver magnet pulling down on the (relatively well made, but not bulletproof) plastic horn. Eventually after the speakers being dumped in the back of a van, or moved around constantly, the whole horn snaps off. Not really audible when it happens either, you'll just notice that it sounds appalling...

Is anybody else getting very concerned at the apparent number of cabinets falling/being dropped?

Perhaps the Nexo's are just very slippery...........

Perhaps this has happened to every single ps15 I've ever used then.

There quite hardy things and I would have thought they would be ok

I think you'll be fine. Just let it sit somewhere warm for a few days to make sure its nice and dry as fatfrog suggested.

How long was it lying there? was it righted immediately, or did it lie there for a while?

It was righted immediately.

We had a PS10 decide to commit Hari-Kari a few years ago ( DJ decided to take it off the tripod and leave it on the subs with no straps...grrr) ...snapped the horn and the magnet shifted enough to lock the voice coil.

Nexo gear is no different to any other higher end speakers. It will last a lifetime if you drive and handle it correctly but you can still kill it ...nothing in a PA is "indestructable"?

.p.

Unless you want an excuse to replace it!

just replaced 5 drivers in a club today and they had the proper TD controller driven by camcos! I hate dj's!
repair bill is looking scary.

See the problem is, they appear efficient on paper, but in reality they need stacks of power to get the volume people expect out of these "oh so magnificent boxes". This causes problems for DJ's as the program material is heavily compressed, it often sends the average level in W higher than the rms of the box. Things warm up, and eventually things fail. The only real way around it is to limit the system so the amps are never allowed to produce over the rms level of the speakers, but this of course limits your headroom. You can't add more boxes as they don't array properly, so you're stuck with a bit of a problem. Multiband compression is one thing or a compression with a bit slower attack time to allow transients through particularly kick / bass beats but all in all when they start to turn it up, which they will, and then start to turn it up until the system distorts, which they will, it is here where the protection is needed.

It's for this reason of inefficiency in real world applications, their silly dispersion pattern making them useless in quantities above 1, the fact they require 7 megawatts to be audible and their horrible overly processed bright and fatiguing sound that makes me dislike them.

Other than that they're a good box.

not a fan then?

I couldn't agree with you more rob, I also dislike the ps15 because of the price to quality ratio its just not good enough.also I think the crossover point on the td15 is two low. I've heard ps15 chinese copys @ 1/4 the price and they would give the real thing a run.
yamaha might get them to sort it

on another note I think the ps8 is the best 8" on the market!

That in Tralee Dave?

Where has Nexo Gear - I know fabric has some EAW anyways

Budget : Martin F8
No Budget : d&b E8
Install : Void Mycro 8
If you must have french : L'acoustics 8xt

All sound nicer to my ears! YMMV of course.....

Not that I've used it, but I reckon the baby 8in from the RCF TT range would give it a good run for its money!

TQ308 sounds better IMO but hey, that's all it is, an opinion.

In an effort to drag this vaguely back on topic.....

I found a PS10 with a snapped hf flare in the repairs pile today, looks like it's had a fall. . On checking the lf driver the magnet looked ok, but the voice coil is now scraping, whether this was due to the fall of other abuse I can't tell.

Yes, The tt08 is very good indeed, Have put them in for a few talk's and they have impressed all, And I can transport them easily too - Can transport them in a mini cooper even!!!

They all seem to suffer from this. No internal bracing, and the plastic seems to harden or just get weaker over time...

All very well this expensive foreign gear.
In recent years I've stuck with British built and my Shermann R8M (8" + 1") have
sturdy aluminium horns.
As for sound quality there as good as any of the above but away cheaper.