Im currently using my dynacord powermate 1000 m 2 with Cerwin vega tops and bass bins. Howerer I keep blowing the crossovers in the speakers. Can anyone recommend a decent of speakers to use?

First of all,

As the power output of the Dynacord is 2 x 700 wrms, what is the rating of your current cabs?
Impedance?

When you say " blow the crossovers " what exactly do you mean?


John Denim.

Without any doubt, before you look at ANY speaker, you need to address why you keep having crossover failures, its' unlikely to be due to the weather.

as everyone above has stated, need more info on the speakers you have to find out why you are having problems. If its the very common V152 Cerwin Vega speakers, the Horns blow ridiculously easily, it turns out that its only a Piezo Horn behind that big silver Wok and that the entire cab is only rated at approx 225watts (unbelievable for a speaker which was so highly regarded 5-6 years ago)

then to recommend some speakers for you, we need to know what you are doing with them, what sort of venues you play and what your budget is!

As Rob and SIG, we really need to know why your amps are blowing your cabs.
If you list your P.A we will have a better understanding. What is the application, I assume playback?

Simply listing "decent cabs" is a bit pointless without knowing this, and your budget.
If you said, I have X speakers and want to replace them and have X amount of £'s, we might be able to help but you need to supply more info please.

John Denim.

Sorry new to this forum

Im using the Dynacord Powermate 1000 mk2

Top speakers are

Cerwin Vega PSX153 15" 3 way speakers
Rated 600 watts @ 8ohms
Bass Bins are

Cerwin Vega PSX36 15"
Rated 500 watts @ 8oms

I have the Top speakers wired through internal crossover of the bass bin so the top speakers are never run as a full range speaker.

I had these about 4yrs although they are hardly used after every couple of gigs either the Tops blow/mid range or the crossover has problems (I.e bulbs blow, crossover come away from the board). I have also had both sets of crossovers replaced but still no look.

To be honest I hardly ever use the equipment and its not powered that much either

I hear that cerwin vega have had problems with these speakers..... if anyone has a solution to sorting these out. or if anyone can recommend a set of decent speakers if all fails....

I have had these repaired twice now by a local speaker manufacturer and he did say that cerwin vega have used crap components in this range.....

Im open to suggestions.

Any help is apreciated

KrazyDJ

Well again it would depend on your budget, and I assume you are a DJ?

If we are to assume you want around the same quality, I think we are looking at a budget of around 2 grand?
Why not have a look at the EV range, I'm sure you will find something that suits, arranging a demo at your local pro audio shop
will be a good idea as well.

John Denim.

budget really isnt a concern to be honest, all I want is a decent set of speakers that work well with the amp.

EV speakers are they any good as I have heard bad and good about them

The EV Eliminator series ( sorry if I sound like a broken record!) are a decent cab I have heard and are great value for the money.

But if budget is not really an issue there are some guys on here who could recommend some of the really expensive stuff I have no experience with.
Funktion one, D&B, theres loads to choose from.

I assume you want the same kind of config, passive tops and subs?

John Denim.

I'll 2nd the eliminator's ..........

dave.

You say keep blowing the crossovers? Kind of meaning at least twice. The power output and max input from the speaker specs don't mean much if the signal you are sending is anything other than high quality and balanced. I the source material is heavily compressed in production, and bass heavy, then the amp is having to work very hard. If your gain structure is also introducing distortion (maybe not necessarily audible distortion) then again things are bad for the crossovers. The fact you did it more than once probably just means you are overdriving them, they're heating up and failing. To be fair, I've not heard Cerwin Vega are more prone to this. It could be worth asking on a DJ forum to see if there is a known problem with these when used in this way - not something we're really into. In our world, we rarely destroy loudspeaker components with our programme material - as we usually go for quality rather than volume. Blowing up a passive crossover is abuse caused, rather than just something that happens.

I'd second paulears on this one, it's quite possibly caused by abuse. maybe what you need is a limiter.

Coup

If your looking for a cheap decent pair of 2nd hand cabs for disco use then the Peavey Hi sys 2`s are available for good money around £120 a pair from Ebay etc.

I used a pair for years for DJ / Disco use . Not everyones favourite cab on this forum I know , but cheap and robust reliable cabs

To be honest im not overpowering them, the amp is on less than half way. Ive used them twice in the last six months and both times the crossovers have failed. Ive had the amp and speakers tested yet it still keeps happening. The dynacord has a built in limiter so its says in the manual...... so I dont see how it can happen....

Strange on I know, kinda weird that cerwin vega have discontinued them now.

I think I will check out ev or some new peaveys

For most if not all applications I would reccomend EV over Peavy as a Loudspeaker Brand.

Josh

Uh?
The amp is less than half way?

The amp level is not adjustable, its the GAIN that you set on the master faders.
I assume you are playing CD'S?
You need to PLF the (all input devices) CD's to ensure that the pre amps are not being overdriven before you look at the post amps.
Keep away from the 'red light is good' synopsys, don't let your channels clip, and don't emphasise on the 'bass' too much.



Josh is correct, Peavey were good 10 years ago but whilst everyone else has moved on, Peavey have not.
EV have a great range of passives, but I'd first find out why your existing cabs keep failing, it may save you some money?
Ps, please DON'T go for the Peavey pro range, they look ok on paper but they are SH*T!

John Denim.

I have had the amp tested by madge electrical and he says its fine. He has also repaired the speakers a few times for me and basically said that the components are cheap and that the rating on the cabs is a little of exhagerated, as for clipping I always ensure that I never go in the red on the gains. Ive been doing disco/karaokes for 10 yrs and to be honest ive only had this problem with the cerwin vega speakers. My other set up I used to use was a peavey set up which was stolen a few years ago so I then got the cerwin vega speakers.


Having looked on a few sites it appears that everyone seems to favor the EV ones.

Yes, Peavey speakers have unfortunately ground to a halt.
I think their target market now is budget users, hence the 'pro' range. And of course there are plenty BW drivers out there that have to be replaced once in a while, spares must be high on their list too, the reason for the new BW basket?

The EV's are good, you also have the option of a full range dual 15" + horn cab if you so desire? (ev eliminators)

These are perfect for playback, I know 2 DJ's who love them.

John Denim.

Thanks for the advice, looks like ill be going to test a set of ev's

Where abouts in the world are you Matthew?

West Midlands

It would help us more if you would fill in the Location box on your profile page.

Josh

Cheers Matthew,
I only ask 'cos some of the guys on here have access to hire kit and the like, who could give you a proper demo.

John Denim.

oh right thats good. ill sort out pofile page now

The Dynacord's amp is only 350W (per channel) at 8 ohms, so very small for 1100W of speakers. It's normal have an amp of 1.5 - 2 times the speakers' rating. This is to avoid clipping the amp, which will damage speakers much more quickly than too much power will.

This may well be the cause of your problems. Getting new speakers may well be the wrong solution to the problem; what you need is a bigger amp.

Hi Mark,
The dynacord mk 2 rates at 700 watts per channel @ 4omhs which is what the speakers rate at when thy are linked together. Plus the amp has plenty more power should I wish to turn it up....... ie gains are low ....

KD

Not so. Two 8 ohm speakers in parallel is indeed 4 ohms, but as you're going through a crossover to the tops then it's the crossover that the amp is "seeing".

For a bit more info see this recent thread.

in response to what someone said about the Peavey BW drivers, the new design seem very unreliable, we've sent alot of them back for failing within one or two uses