Junior8 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Wherever you bought it take it along to your local TSO together with any info you have about the seller and demand some action. If you know the location of the seller inform the TSO in that area too. Prosecutions are now taking place, especially in some London Boroughs, and some hefty fines have been imposed. This was after a flat was burnt out in a fire caused by a lethal 13amp 4 way extension. Beware a lot of dodgy stuff is coming in marked CE where CE means nothing more than China Export - the last I covered was a batch of very dangerous illuminated tabletop Hindu icons in Newham. If you want to source any goods from China the best place to start is the UK based wholesale trade as has been suggested. Unfortunately the annual Asian Expo at Olympia in January has been postponed for next year which is a pity as there are always some reputable UK owned specialist wholesale importers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistermorton Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I have to say, I wasn't looking for a power supply, I was looking for a USB hub - I didn't even think about the PSU, just plugged it in and used it. If it had failed immediately then it would have been less dangerous than what actually happened, with it working fine for a couple of weeks before going bang. Anyhow, I've put some pictures here On Picasa in case anyone's interested. I had a USB external drive adapter PSU fail in a manner that looked just like that, except it wasn't a wall wart but a block on a cable. Same thing, though, looked like a diode had gone pop, and the case melted around it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I'm both amazed and worried by the new Apple chargers, the same size as a 13A plug, if not shallower, but remove some of the volume to include a USB A socket and there can't possibly be much space left at all, let alone everything else that has to fit in there. Mind you, given how quickly their cinema display PSUs seem to go pop, its probably just all crammed in very, very tightly. For your enjoyment (warning, big photos)... I've drawn on the line separating the Mains and LV parts. The clearance, IMHO, is nowhere near enough to be safe... Here I'm pointing at a dent in the side of the mains smoothing capacitor caused by the solder blob on the back of the mains live pin... If anyone has one of these I'd go and throw it away right now. [E2A] Smaller photos... [E2A]How it should be done. The one on the left is a Sony Ericson, the white dotted line across the middle is the safety gap. The one on the right is a Nokia, the safety gap is just that, a gap in the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callumb Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 If anyone has one of these I'd go and throw it away right now. The thing is we have yet to hear one of these go bang! The only ones we have heard go bang are the el cheppo no name ones. Until I hear that they fail and explode after a while then im keeping mine. http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramdram Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Were you to have peruse of the Apple forums, Jiggle, on this admittedly slightly off topic aspect ref the O/P's original post then you may find some of the comments illuminating. If it were not for SJ's desire to make his kit "trendy" to look at then the design may have been a tad better thought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I've drawn on the line separating the Mains and LV parts. The clearance, IMHO, is nowhere near enough to be safe...[snip]Here I'm pointing at a dent in the side of the mains smoothing capacitor caused by the solder blob on the back of the mains live pin...[snip]If anyone has one of these I'd go and throw it away right now.Have you passed your concerns to Trading Standards yet? That design does look quite dangerous to me as well. How were the mains wires routed? It looks like they were in contact with the USB connector shell, thus a small nick in the thin insulation would make the USB connector live. [Edit]And that diode looks *terrifyingly* close to the solder blob for the mains neutral pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I dont know if its a photo artifact or a bit of screen-print I've mistaken for copper, but just down and to the right of R5 it looks like incomplete etch leaving an island of copper in the (already too narrow IMN-HO) isolation zone. And the trimmed off component lead just right of that makes the gap even smaller at that point, just by the bend in the red line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I dont know if its a photo artifact or a bit of screen-print I've mistaken for copper, but just down and to the right of R5 it looks like incomplete etch leaving an island of copper in the (already too narrow IMN-HO) isolation zone. And the trimmed off component lead just right of that makes the gap even smaller at that point, just by the bend in the red line.Good point, I hadn't noticed that before. I think you're right about it being unetched copper. Brian, is that definitely a 'genuine' one or one of the many clones? I don't see an Apple logo on the PCB itself, and looking online there are loads of 'clones' of that Apple PSU available.I'd kind of expect an unauthorised clone not to meet CE given that they clearly weren't that bothered by trademarks either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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