stephen164 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The drapes in my venue have a mixture of fixings, with some having tape ties and others sewn-on G-clips for clipping to track runners. In the quite-common event that we want to hang a drape with G-clips onto a bare bar, we currently have to loop chain around the bar, clamped at each end, to provide points to clip the drapes to, which is far from ideal. I'm sure there must exist a piece of rigging which loops over the bar and has a hole or fixing point at either end, just long enough for the two holes to marry up underneath the bar, that you could then clip the G-clip through. Maybe something like a really tiny spanset, or more of a metal or plastic clip. But I haven't the first clue about what to search for to find such a thing. Does anyone know the name of the thing I'm looking for, or something that might solve the same problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatman Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You could try some of these: http://www.csedistributors.com/acatalog/cable-tie-l.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen164 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Should have known someone was going to suggest that! Reason for me wanting to avoid cable ties is the weight: they're a reasonably long drop, double-thickness (mostly for acoustics) and someone decided to get uranium for the chain weight, or it feels that way at least. I'd prefer to have something a bit more reliable for the fixing; I know you can get some pretty chunky ties, but that seems to rather defeat the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Short safety bond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Edwards Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Seddon Links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I seem to remember seeing some gadget in the PLASA innovation gallery some years ago that was meant to address this sort of issue. Something like a plastic snap hook in hookclamp size with a ring below it? Or was it elastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I seem to remember seeing some gadget in the PLASA innovation gallery some years ago that was meant to address this sort of issue. Something like a plastic snap hook in hookclamp size with a ring below it? Or was it elastic? Like the bungee loops with hooks ? http://www.flints.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=screen&PN=Marine_Shock_Cord_Loops___Spanfixes.html#aROP090Ma There are those weird 2 part grips (I am REALLY sorry I have no idea what they are called) that are loose and get tighter the more weight added, the loops at the top you could add rings to. e2a - FOUND THEM http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/Holdons.html also these http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/MultiHooks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I saw an Australian show bring through what was essentially seatbelt webbing with the 'male' part of the seatbelt on each end, you can then attach as you see fit to your drape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Those multihooks are what I was thinking of. Handy looking things. [edit now having had time to peruse Flints] Actually it might have been Pipesnaps - these might be more useful for the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hate to be lo-tech but wouldn't cheapo shower curtain rings suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave m Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 at a place that I worked we had some 3" or so steel or brass rings on pipe. the rings have to stay on the bar or the bar partially derigged to remove them. I don't think that you'd find cheaper than a big bit of safety chain type stuff cut into 4'6" bits.or sash tied into short loops. Nylon loops? I use as cable ties some rubber things that I bought from costco.They are supposed to be luggage straps and have slots in them and the end is like an arrow head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top-cat Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I assume you're looking for Pipe Snaps? http://www.showtex.com/product/prodname/pipesnap/category/stage-curtain-accessories/ http://www.showtex.com/uploads/tx_miashowtex/PipeSnap__01.jpg http://www.showtex.com/uploads/tx_miashowtex/PipeSnap__06.jpg You can get them from Showtex or J&C Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 One method I've used when hanging drapes with hooks across the top is to tie a piece of rope to the bar such that it is fixed to the bar only at both ends and runs along the top of the bar. Then I hook the cloth to the rope alternating the side I hook on to i.e. the first hook goes in front of the bar , the second goes behind the bar, and so on. This method only works for drapes not cloths as it forces the drapes to ripple (not sure if thats the right word). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen164 Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 I think pipesnaps are probably closest to what I was thinking of. Thanks for all the suggestions! http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiLL Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Hate to be lo-tech but wouldn't cheapo shower curtain rings suffice? Certainly, if you can find 48mm ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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