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Large(ish) PA System Ideas

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:50 AM

I should add, that the Nexo Alpha (Not Alpha E) system I listed above is designed for a venue with a capacity of just over 1000 people in mind, and is infact a little over spec'd for the venue, but does the job very well.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 12:42 PM

the big problem for me would be that the "inside" part of the equasion is a variable that has massive impact on speaker selection. What might sound fantastic in hall "a" for an 80s night, might sound rough, in hotel "b" for a wedding.



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Posted 07 September 2011 - 02:35 PM

You have to eq any system to different rooms. Well I do anyway.....
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 03:03 PM

I am surprised nobody has mentioned D & B, C7 is like rocking horse ###### secondhand but what about C4.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 03:24 PM

This summer I've been out a lot with a Nexo Alpha system, of varying sizes. Flown, this stuff sounds fantastic, The S2's are no longer as good as the latest offerings from Nexo, L'acoustics and d&b, but they're still great subs.

A common ground stack configuration we use a lot, good for about 1000-1300 people, is 2xS2, 4xB1, 4xM3, per side. Powered off 4x Camco V6's per side.


A very versatile system. Though I'm not sure its the right system for audiences of 200? Its narrow dispersion, and voicing, makes it very "in your face" at close range. Outside for that sized crowd, we tend to use a PS15 with 3 subs per side.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 03:49 PM

I would recommend KV2 all day long we keep lots of EX series in hire stock and are dealers I would be happy to discuss options and arrange a demo for you.

Feel free to give us a call on 0845 505 5123 or 07545 425 121

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 04:52 PM

View Postjacethebase, on 07 September 2011 - 09:13 AM, said:

The guy selling that Opus system is a muppet. Ive tried to buy certain bits of him and he is nothing but a nightmare......
The HB215's are not a sub and would really need the SB21 or the SB218 underneath them. Plus the Opus HD amp racks are serious weight.

Have a listen to a Alpha E rig system.

The above KV2 system would be nice for a conference of around 100-200 people but anything else you wont have the balls.


4 Kv2 tops and 2 bins for 200 people? You must be joking. I've done well over 450 people with this sort of system on a band night, maybe needed more bottom end, but it coped superbly

*taken from KV2 website*
•126dB sustained output, 129dB peak with very high dynamic range and low noise floor.
•500W of total power with complete on-board speaker management system.
•450W high efficiency, current enhancing, switching low frequency amplifier.
•Very high quality 50W, low IM distortion, Class AB, high frequency amplifier with
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:43 PM

View Postgoboloco, on 07 September 2011 - 12:42 PM, said:

the big problem for me would be that the "inside" part of the equasion is a variable that has massive impact on speaker selection. What might sound fantastic in hall "a" for an 80s night, might sound rough, in hotel "b" for a wedding.


I still have my PS8/PS10 systems for the smaller things. Don't plan to get rid of them.

Looks like the Nexo Alpha series stuff is gonna be best for me then. :)

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:54 PM

Make sure you try out the other box's I mentioned earlier as Nexo Alpha is not in a league of its own!!!! Martin W8, EAW kf850, Turbosound tfl760 etc
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 06:19 PM

The KV2 stuff really needs to be heard, we mainly use EX6 powered boxes for our conference rig due to its small size excellent coverage with a wide 100 x 100 degree dispersion and the fact they are great against feedback making your engineers life so much easier.
The EX10's or EX12 are great boxes too.


I can arrange a free no obligation demo for you and as for number of speakers with KV2 you need far less boxes than with other manufacturers.

All my freelance engineers when they first use our stuff always ask for more boxes until they fire it up.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 06:25 PM

View Postjacethebase, on 07 September 2011 - 05:54 PM, said:

Make sure you try out the other box's I mentioned earlier as Nexo Alpha is not in a league of its own!!!! Martin W8, EAW kf850, Turbosound tfl760 etc


Whats the opinion on the Martin Audio H3+/S218? Could get 4 stacks of it within budget rather than 2 pairs of the other stacks.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 07:49 PM

The H3 system is Martins attempt at keeping people on a budget happy. Its brilliant for little installs and small gigging bands. Its not a proffesional touring rig and isnt capable of the continued SPL of its big brothers. The S218 is not to bad a bin but not horn loaded if you put it against the likes of a WSX say 2 per side the 218 will look stupid.

It has to be said a bank of 218's can produce alot of noise :) but you need alot outside.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:51 PM

whats the attraction of horn loading? apart from slowing down the sound and making things sound nasty? give me a front loaded ,ported if need be, box any day.ChasHS your asking a lot on your budget,my advice is to carry on saving the pennys and get yerself a nice DAS active rig
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 09:25 PM

M8s are the way forward with Alpha. They take it from the narrow 'in your face' PA mentioned above, to one that is much more useful. I wouldn't consider M3s if I was speccing an Alpha system unless there were at least 6 a side and it was flown. You can easily get away with 2 B1s to 1 M8 as well.

However, you're not going to get much Alpha for £10k.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 09:55 PM

View Postproductionpeople, on 07 September 2011 - 06:19 PM, said:

The KV2 stuff really needs to be heard, we mainly use EX6 powered boxes for our conference rig due to its small size excellent coverage with a wide 100 x 100 degree dispersion and the fact they are great against feedback making your engineers life so much easier.
The EX10's or EX12 are great boxes too.


I can arrange a free no obligation demo for you and as for number of speakers with KV2 you need far less boxes than with other manufacturers.

All my freelance engineers when they first use our stuff always ask for more boxes until they fire it up.

Ricky


I totally agree Ricky!!!
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