Some interesting points here, and some absolute tosh. I'll let you decide which is which. My point, which I stand by, is that if this sort of discussion makes one person involved in one show somewhere in the world think twice, double or triple check something, or question something which is not directly their responsibility, and that leads to the prevention of injury or death, then it's worth it. Yes, I will be interested, as many others will, in the actual cause(s) of the collapse, when the investigation is complete some months down the line, but I'm prepared to put up with a bit of speculation, ghoulish or otherwise, if it keeps the subject of safety fresh in everyone's mind. Incidentally, referring back to b-g's post #11, my brother-in-law was killed in a road traffic accident at the age of 19, before the huge popularity of internet forums, and I'm sure people speculated about the cause of that; was he speeding, drunk etc. If that discussion/speculation led to one person driving home a bit slower, not having an extra drink, looking twice at a junction, then speculate away. (the other driver was drinking - milk, as it happens, while driving)