cameronaffleck Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Hi everyone, How would you all go about braking a drum riser/rostra, so that it does not wheel around during the set? I have a riser/rostra with 12 heavy duty wheels, where 4 are exposed (for braking). However, when the four brakes are down, the rostra still moves - as the other 8 wheels pick up it's weight... I then thought of using this [Rosco Wagon Brake] : Any ideas would be most appreciated. Also, is it a Rostra or a Riser? http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Looking at that, if it is what I have used before its pretty light duty for a drum kit that might be thrashing about. Flints have some big lifts that might be better but come at a price. Then again maybe you need to look at how its built, crawling under to break it + maybe a flightcase style lock is better than a lift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistermorton Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Also, is it a Rostra or a Riser? http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif A rostrum. A number of rostra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Rostrum for theatre, riser for rock and roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 A riser in fact is usually made up of a rostrum or some rostra. :)Either of which can comprise decking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 https://shop.flints.co.uk/Products/pg_TRUCKBRAKES/CAS701 this is what I Was thinking Or something more like this https://shop.flints.co.uk/Products/pg_SCAFFOLDCASTORS on each wheel, (though they are a touch on the slippy side even when locked but it will keep everything level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 All those pop-up style brakes get mangled by sideways forces on rock rolling risers and we used flight-case wheels with locking brakes. Something like thesethough they were used with scaff tube studs rather than screwed to a base board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiLL Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The lifting brakes can always be problematic I've found. Far better to get really good locking castors, flints even stock ones now where the brake stays in a fixed position allowing it always to be accessible no matter which way the castor is facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peza2010 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 As both a drummer and a tech, ive never found a decent locking castor for a drum riser. You will be much better off with dropping legs which physically lift the wheels off the ground. Will dig out a link later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 ........flints even stock ones now where the brake stays in a fixed position allowing it always to be accessible no matter which way the castor is facing. Oooo - not seen them before. I could definitely make good use of a few of those. Click Shame they're quite so expensive..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamharman Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If it's got 12 wheels, presumably some are under the middle and inaccessible but are needed to support the weight evenly? That's going to be an issue with lifting legs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart91 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Just thinking laterally on this, if locking castors aren't going to be reliable, and feet which lower down are no good, would it be possible to have rigid legs, fixed firmly in place, and some sort of mechanism to raise the castors out of the way? Like a heavier-duty version of the kick-step things you see in shops? http://www.theworkplacedepot.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_0123.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Like a heavier-duty version of the kick-step things you see in shops? http://www.theworkplacedepot.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_0123.jpgRaised a laugh, Stuart. My trainees in the 80's tried a spring loaded effort like that and it worked really well until.... As the drummer got excited and leaped around the bl00dy thing started skipping sideways as his weight came off the springs. Agree with Peza that his idea is good and is similar to Sico staging but I just hate those and haven't seen any proprietary cam-lock fixtures for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart91 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Raised a laugh, Stuart. My trainees in the 80's tried a spring loaded effort like that and it worked really well until.... As the drummer got excited and leaped around the bl00dy thing started skipping sideways as his weight came off the springs. Yeah, I wasn't actually thinking of spring-loading it, but there must be some way of getting the wheels clear that's relatively simple to implement. I suppose there would only be a couple of cm or so of clearance required. I remember a similar incident at a gig in a barn, where an ancient flatbed truck had been reversed into place behind the stage to act as a drum riser. The problem was that the suspension was incredibly spongy, so the entire bed bounced up and down in time with the beat. One drummer complained of feeling seasick by the end of his set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlinford Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Raised a laugh, Stuart. My trainees in the 80's tried a spring loaded effort like that and it worked really well until.... As the drummer got excited and leaped around the bl00dy thing started skipping sideways as his weight came off the springs. Yeah, I wasn't actually thinking of spring-loading it, but there must be some way of getting the wheels clear that's relatively simple to implement. I suppose there would only be a couple of cm or so of clearance required. I remember a similar incident at a gig in a barn, where an ancient flatbed truck had been reversed into place behind the stage to act as a drum riser. The problem was that the suspension was incredibly spongy, so the entire bed bounced up and down in time with the beat. One drummer complained of feeling seasick by the end of his set. I've seen compressed air used to essentially create a "hover deck" that glides along. Took some work and needs a flat, sealed surface beneath it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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