nikkicallaghan Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 ive been asked by my local am theatre about using pyros just flashes I think in an upcoming show. The problem is I've not used pyros in a long time and am not up on the legalities and regs on their use. So basically I need a link to the to current regs on this. Thx in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Current ABTT guidelines HSE guidance these may be useful. HSE refers to ABTT code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkicallaghan Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 1469459931[/url]' post='540989']Current ABTT guidelines HSE guidance these may be useful. HSE refers to ABTT code. Brilliant thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Biggest changes to LAW for "old timers" who did pyro years ago, are; Minimum age of 18 for all people involved and no powders -use commercial articles. Design the effects by the makers catalogue then test with no-one close til you are certain that the effect suits the dramatic effect and the place (Stage) where it takes place. After that work tidy keep wires safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Biggest changes to LAW for "old timers" who did pyro years ago, are; Minimum age of 18 for all people involved and no powders -use commercial articles. indeed - fond memories of "flash bang wallop" old fashioned cameras and exploding radios using fusewire and flash powder, and home made confetti cannons made out of a bit of scaff tube can be only that - memories... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkicallaghan Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 I've found out the effect they want is a Xmas tree on fire. With the size of the stage and lack of expertise among the crew involved I've said it will be far too dangerous and have suggested using a lighting effect and smoke machine. As you can guess they saw the effect in a film version of the play and just assumed it would be easy to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 OOH! that's a bit big! This a true Cedd style effect with an animatronic tree, some smoke and a lot of projected flame light. This is certainly not a pyro effect that is anything short of film SFX. The easy way to do it is to pick a new play! Just think where the machine smoke is going to travel, will it miss the alarm system all the time? 100% proven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 As you can guess they saw the effect in a film version of the play and just assumed it would be easy to doAh - the curse of the director with too little imagination! :)The key when watching someone else's (FAR higher budget than your own) production of your chosen piece is deciding how you can achieve the effect required with YOUR expertise, experience and lower budget whilst still getting the same message across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDYLASER Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Although not specifically mentioned in the guidance notes. take a good look at the grid and any trussing above the sites of the pyro's. See if it is clean, or has several years of accumulated dust on it. If the latter, see if you can get the venue to clean it, or make sure the pyro's cant reach the dust, or are placed away from the trusses. You dont need to ask me how I know about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 You dont need to ask me how I know about this. Many years ago, I did a project which used medium maroons to destroy the integrity of a wooden structure, leading to collapse. It was necessary to test this would work, using a bit of wood and a maroon in the woodwork shop. The test proved the idea was workable. It also caused fifty years of wood dust to abandon its long term resting place, and fill the air of the workshop. A whiteout. Visibility down to zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart91 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 There's a famous (and possibly apocryphal) tale of a classical concert that took place in an old university hall in Glasgow. Some pyro was employed to get the cannon effect at the end of the 1812 overture. Unfortunately it shifted enough air to dislodge around a century's worth of dirt, dust, and soot from the rafters. It was a black tie event, and the bill for dry cleaning was apparently eye-watering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 All of which shows the NEED to do tests in situ, The second effect dislodges much less dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDYLASER Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I should point out, I didn't actually "shift" the years of built up dust, that would have been a good result. Unfortunately for us, it ignited. Which necessitated to brave (drunk) fools having to shimmy across the 40 foot high truss armed with fire extinguishers. Which did dislodge little piles of burning dust onto the stage., which had fortunately been evacuated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laseranger Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Actually many years ago deliberately used this during a stage spring clean! Stage stripped and Iron in, Opened two fire vents dropped all the fly bars in except one with pryo!! result dust cloud over fly tower!http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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